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#1 Jacobei

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:18 AM

If you don't like conquest matches for personal reason that most likely fit around your mech and playing style - You have no reason to post here. It will be breaking the forum rules and will be reported. Please stay on topic (Conquest we want it back - fix voting system is ruining the visitor experience)

I enjoy conquest the most and easily maxed my conquest maps in the last event.

Now I have to play map after map of what I don't want to play and conquest is 1/10 chance

I don't mind picking maps but not game modes.

The game is degrading again to: (because everyone fits for skirmish no matter what now even a rare conquest match is just a skirmish now)
  • All front armor (no need for back armor if your just popping out every match on a firing line)
  • Jump shooting (This is back due to lack of tactic required in other game modes like assault)
  • Alpha strike everything
  • LRM boats for the win

Conquest requires more teamwork and even if one team is overpowered it does not guaranty them a win.

What am I doing to protest?! I have removed myself from all Q's but North America. In this way I affect the growth of the game in weaker markets till I can enjoy the game at he same level I was before.

We don't all want to play the same way and this change to voting is forcing that!

Edited by Jacobei, 07 November 2015 - 12:33 PM.


#2 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:24 AM

I like the short wait times and better matchmaker balancing that a single pool of players brings. Choice is nice but until the number players increases it is a luxury we cannot afford.
That being said, nothing about the current conquest is appealing, maybe if PGI made it a little more thematic it would play better. As it stands, it is a copy-paste from another game, it needs to be adjusted to that it is a Mechwarrior/Battletech game mode.

#3 Novakaine

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:29 AM

Er..........

#4 Ezekeel666

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:52 AM

So everyone who posts here not agreeing with you will get reported? You do know how a discussion forum works, right?

#5 Jacobei

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 09:54 AM

On topic please.. Ezekeel666 that is how it works.

This is not a agree or disagree post. Unless you topic is the voting system.

Edited by Jacobei, 07 November 2015 - 09:55 AM.


#6 Antares102

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:09 AM

View PostJacobei, on 07 November 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

On topic please.. Ezekeel666 that is how it works.

This is not a agree or disagree post. Unless you topic is the voting system.


Welcome to the internet, where nobody cares about your opinion
(unless you have 1000000 followers)

#7 Darian DelFord

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:14 AM

View PostJacobei, on 07 November 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

On topic please.. Ezekeel666 that is how it works.

This is not a agree or disagree post. Unless you topic is the voting system.



Personally I think you need to ease up.

Everyone likes their own modes for their own reasons. This is one of a hundred threads talking about the exact same thing. But you had to start your own did you not? Could not join one of the others eh?

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:21 AM

He started two threads, and doesn't really understand the game itself all that well.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:21 AM

Conquest for most maps is easy to win. Ignore capping, play as if skirmish. Most maps are so small you can cap after killing most of the other team..

#10 Madcap72

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:23 AM

View PostJacobei, on 07 November 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

If you don't like conquest matches for personal reason that most likely fit around your mech and playing style - You have no reason to post here. It will be breaking the forum rules and will be reported. Please stay on topic (Conquest we want it back(

I enjoy conquest the most and easily maxed my conquest maps in the last event.

Now I have to play map after map of what I don't want to play and conquest is 1/10 chance

I don't mind picking maps but not game modes.

The game is degrading again to:
  • All front armor (no need for back armor if your just popping out every match on a firing line)
  • Jump shooting (This is back due to lack of tactic required in other game modes like assault)
  • Alpha strike everything
  • LRM boats for the win

Conquest requires more teamwork and even if one team is overpowered it does not guaranty them a win.

What am I doing to protest?! I have removed myself from all Q's but North America. In this way I affect the growth of the game in weaker markets till I can enjoy the game at he same level I was before.

We don't all want to play the same way and this change to voting is forcing that!

I don't like conquest enough to care that it comes up less with map voting, but it still comes up.


Plus it's what day FOUR? Maybe you should wait a little longer to see how things smooth out.



Oh yea... report away. LOL

#11 Tatula

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:24 AM

To all the Conquest (or whatever is your favorite game mode) players, get together and sync drop. That's essentially what the Skirmish players are doing. There are just more of them. It will take a little more coordination, but hey, you're a Conquest player. Coordination is your game.

#12 MechWarrior3671771

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:36 AM

Waste of your breath OP. Players don't respect Conquest enough to even show you basic courtesy. But you can be sure if they were forced to drop their laser-vomits on Terra Therma - Conquest, they would burn PGI to the ground.

Remember that when you are forced to drop Skirmish over and over again. And adjust accordingly. They don't respect your preferences, so why should you respect theirs?

"Choice is nice but until the number players increases it is a luxury we cannot afford."

If the mode-voting remain as is, the player base will decrease further, and matchmaker will go back to longer wait times. Only difference is you will be waiting waiting waiting to drop Skirmish HPG 20 times in a row.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:47 AM

View PostFenrisulvyn, on 07 November 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Waste of your breath OP. Players don't respect Conquest enough to even show you basic courtesy. But you can be sure if they were forced to drop their laser-vomits on Terra Therma - Conquest, they would burn PGI to the ground.

Remember that when you are forced to drop Skirmish over and over again. And adjust accordingly. They don't respect your preferences, so why should you respect theirs?

"Choice is nice but until the number players increases it is a luxury we cannot afford."

If the mode-voting remain as is, the player base will decrease further, and matchmaker will go back to longer wait times. Only difference is you will be waiting waiting waiting to drop Skirmish HPG 20 times in a row.


I know - but I figured to make change we should say something.

You right if it was forcing them to Terra Therma - Conquest they would burn PGI hard LOL

#14 TWIAFU

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:03 AM

View PostDarian DelFord, on 07 November 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:



Everyone likes their own modes for their own reasons. This is one of a hundred threads talking about the exact same thing. But you had to start your own did you not? Could not join one of the others eh?


This one is different! If you do not like Conquest, you get reported.

Plus, he is really sticking it to the man! He is really going to show PGI who's the boss around here but not playing on any server BUT the most populated one! That is some brainy stuff right there. That's going to show them...

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:07 AM

View PostJacobei, on 07 November 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

I enjoy conquest the most and easily maxed my conquest maps in the last event.
Now I have to play map after map of what I don't want to play and conquest is 1/10 chance
The game is degrading again to:
  • All front armor (no need for back armor if your just popping out every match on a firing line)
  • Jump shooting (This is back due to lack of tactic required in other game modes like assault)
  • Alpha strike everything
  • LRM boats for the win

Your opinion is valid however I disagree with your points

I like the voting as many games allow voting and not just shooter/sims, but I feel the voting should be weighted somehow.
Like if the last 5 matches were skirmish it would take an act of god for conquest or assault to not be the next game-mode.
I don't have enough game design knowledge to figure our how to do that, but that is what I would like some sort of script / procedure that takes into account game mode choice and helps even out the selection.

Your points on "What the game has degraded to" have little to do with game mode. Balance and lack of systems to keep weapons and alpha-strikes down, has lead to the game-play you see. I must read like a broken record but a CoF and a Meaningful Heat-scale with penalties would fix all of the points you mentioned.

#16 MechWarrior3671771

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:07 AM

"Plus, he is really sticking it to the man!"

See? When you're the last man standing on Skirmish Tourmaline, remember the contempt they showed you here.

Edited by Fenrisulvyn, 07 November 2015 - 11:08 AM.


#17 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:09 AM

View PostDirkdaring, on 07 November 2015 - 10:21 AM, said:

Conquest for most maps is easy to win. Ignore capping, play as if skirmish. Most maps are so small you can cap after killing most of the other team..


Which is why terra therma is the only good conquest map.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:16 AM

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 07 November 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:


Which is why terra therma is the only good conquest map.

Not true

The new (revised maps) are all good. Lots of map space between points. The only real bad map is canyon because it does "seem" small.

Edited by ChronoBear, 07 November 2015 - 11:17 AM.


#19 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:18 AM

View PostChronoBear, on 07 November 2015 - 11:16 AM, said:

No true

The new (revised maps) are all good. Lots of map space between points. The only real bad map is canyon because it does "seem" small.



TT is the only conquest map where ignoring the objectives to focus on killing most of the enemy team has a decent chance of backfiring on you.

#20 TWIAFU

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:19 AM

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 07 November 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:


Which is why terra therma is the only good conquest map.


Good Conquest maps are the ones where most of your team/group are in Lights and rush cap everything and get it won in a couple minutes.

Enemy does not even get to fire a shot.





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