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[Bishop Steiner]

DarthRevis, on 14 December 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

How many matches did it take to get those TWO decent games though?

Because i have matches like that in my single ERPPC MLX as well from time to time...doesnt mean its a good but it also doesnt mean it not bad either.

valid question, but even if it took hundreds, I give him respect for having the gonads to stick to it, instead of flcoking and whining on the forums every time the metaOPceezepuff gun of the month gets changed *coughgaussriflecough* like some of our Comp Overlords..........

But back when I was active in Stock Mech Mondays, I ran my tier 1 stock YLW for a couple weeks, maybe 50 matches in all, and while there was a noticeable dropoff (couldn't evade as easy, and more time spent cooling off) out of about 30 matches, I still pulled a half dozen 7-800 dmg 4 kills(ish) matches... and my average didn't plummet too terribly. I think I was off my avg damage by about 50 and .75 kills a match. Since breaking 1000 in my YLW was rare as hen's teeth to begin with, (and while not comparing it to1400 dmg stalker, directly) I'd say it's not that undoable, outside of the rarified airs of Mt Tryhard.

It may not be Church of Skill approved.... but IMO, their views are pretty akin to that other Church during the whole Inquisition days, anyhow..... (You say the earth orbits the sun, Galileo?!?!?! HERESY!!!! You say that most of MWO doesn't really care about what the denizens of Complandia think?!?!?! HERESY!!!!)

Alistair Winter, on 14 December 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

Not only a lack of known units, but also a relatively low number of players with badges.

On top of that, we're only looking at single screenshots.

I can show you a screenshot of the time I was the lone survivor with 5 kills in a Locust 1M with 2xLRM5 and 2xSL, carrying my team to victory in one of the worst builds for one of the worst mechs in the game. And it's going to be completely meaningless, unless I also post screenshots of all times I got smashed and peed on by Firestarters before I could hit 100 dmg.

I applaud anyone who puts these kind of limitations on themselves, but I also value the humility and scientific mindset to know that it doesn't necessarily prove a whole lot

it's proves he's probably more fun to be around and play with than the MWO Pharisee set is.

[mogs01gt]

So is the trick with the 4n to boat SHS to get higher cooling?? I thought DHS still dissipated heat better?

[Roughneck45]

No, just proof that competent pilots can make the best of suboptimal builds against certain opponents.

Nice scores though, you must have been firing those lasers nonstop, those matches are always fun.

[Navid A1]

you know that Single heat sinks were recently buffed to dissipate 0.12 up from 0.1 (and 0.11 if they are in engine)
Doubles dissipate 0.14.

you can achieve better cooling with SHS on a quad LL stalker.
so the OP's build is OP, using superior tech!

[mogs01gt]

Navid A1, on 14 December 2015 - 01:42 PM, said:

you know that Single heat sinks were recently buffed to dissipate 0.12 up from 0.1 (and 0.11 if they are in engine)
Doubles dissipate 0.14.you can achieve better cooling with SHS on a quad LL stalker.
so the OP's build is OP, using superior tech!

That's it!!! I wonder if its worth change my 4n over to SHS!

[Lugh]

WHAT YOU AREN'T RUNNING META?!!?!?

BURN HIM AT THE STAKE WITH ER LLS AT 1000m !!!

NOW NOW NOW...

[627]

getting 10 kills in a match is quite an achievement, no matter the build or tier. So kudos to that.

Still, one question, when did you do this? the stalker was overquirked before the latest balance patch, so you could cheese your way out even with '25 tech... still, cool scores

Edited by 627, 14 December 2015 - 01:58 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Navid A1, on 14 December 2015 - 01:42 PM, said:

you know that Single heat sinks were recently buffed to dissipate 0.12 up from 0.1 (and 0.11 if they are in engine)
Doubles dissipate 0.14.

you can achieve better cooling with SHS on a quad LL stalker.
so the OP's build is OP, using superior tech!

yeah, while not strictly tier 1, it's actually kinda mean if you pop in Endo and a 280std
STK-4Nghetto
especially with the 10% total heat generation quirk......(had the 3F open for something else and was too lazy to swap it)
Still not as good as with DHS, I don't think, but not too far off the mark
STK-4N

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 December 2015 - 02:25 PM.

[Revis Volek]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 December 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

yeah, while not strictly tier 1, it's actually kinda mean if you pop in Endo and a 280std
STK-4Nghetto
especially with the 10% total heat generation quirk......(had the 3F open for something else and was too lazy to swap it)

More SHS then slots left...

me likey.

[Bishop Steiner]

DarthRevis, on 14 December 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

More SHS then slots left...

me likey.

well, if nothing else, if I ever rebought Stalkers, I could run a solid fighter for dirt cheap while grinding.

[Blottgrimson]

@Axel von Stahl

Nice suggestions, but i don´t see this changes comming. MWO goes STEAM and will be more streamline in the future which means less quirks, more simple rules, no or far less skills. The current status of MWO is a shooter with Mechs. There is no room for RPG elements, strategy or taktics. Damage and Kills are all what counts and what is most rewarded. And that is exactly what the majority of the players want ... Damage, Damage and more Damage. (Like Quake, Halo, Medal-of-Honor, Battlefield ... just with Mechs)

What you are looking for, is a MMO variant of Mech-Commander. You are playing the wrong game ... sorry. The old days of table top will never come back ... sadly

[PurpleNinja]

Where's the proof?

[Blottgrimson]

PurpleNinja, on 15 December 2015 - 05:22 AM, said:

Where's the proof?

PGI tries to balance where no balance is required. Clan Tech is superior to IS and should be. But no .. if Clan Mechs are better than IS there is no fair match because everybody wants to play the strongest Mech. If so PGI won´t sell any IS Mech anymore. Therefore PGI tries to close the gap by quirking. Nerv down the Meta-Mechs and quirk up the weaker and unpopular Mechs. Thats there (streamlined) solution. On my (personal) opinion - this is ********.

If you want to balance Clan vs. IS let 8 Clan-Mechs fight agains 12 IS Mechs. We will not see this, because of the "I drive the best Mech with the highest damage ... look how awesome i am" attitude of the players. They don´t want a realistic Battletech simulation, they want a Halo, Countestrike, Battlefield like shooter with Mechs. And thats exactly what PGI will deliver.

[mogs01gt]

I havent played my Stalker in months, first game out 600dmg. Sucker is still a beast! Sadly, I was in the front lines tanking as much as i could so I was twisting a lot, only had 1 kill.....

Edited by mogs01gt, 15 December 2015 - 08:33 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

DarthRevis, on 14 December 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

More SHS then slots left...

me likey.

in fact, out of boredom, I tried it last night. I sucked, but that's my usual results in slower immobile mechs. That said, the lasers were quite cool.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 15 December 2015 - 08:49 AM.

[Rhaythe]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 December 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

But back when I was active in Stock Mech Mondays, I ran my tier 1 stock YLW for a couple weeks, maybe 50 matches in all, and while there was a noticeable dropoff (couldn't evade as easy, and more time spent cooling off) out of about 30 matches, I still pulled a half dozen 7-800 dmg 4 kills(ish) matches... and my average didn't plummet too terribly.

Sigh. I miss Stock Mech Mondays. In remembrance - an epic match for those of you that missed the awesomeness.