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#21 Lord Auriel

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 03:28 PM

This is sooo stupid. Frustrated players all around who just yolo or refuse to play well because they stopped giving a ****. Voting is bad, it needs to go. Not because it is a bad mechanic, but because is frustrates everybody and leads to TERRIBLE games. I've had **** games only since the patch, and it is getting worse and worse. Also ppl really start to insult other players on their team, the aggression level is rising.

Ah well and of course everybody seems to join the bandwagon on that "vote farming" thing and instead of getting skirmish / frozen all the time, we get conquest & forest colony because of this.

GG.

#22 FinnMcKool

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 09:37 PM

ILL ASK AGAIN ! PGI, ARE YOU STUPID ?

#23 Rejarial Galatan

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 10:39 PM

welcome to TOXIC MECHWARRIOR ONLINE where we will FORCE you to THINK you have a CHOICE in what YOU do!

#24 Mazzyplz

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 11:40 AM

i would be happier, much happier if they removed it

#25 xWiredx

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 11:56 AM

Yet another thread about voting, because 10 of them isn't enough. Everybody needs their own.

Voting works. The weighting mechanism works as intended. We now have all game modes and maps on a more equal footing that we did previously with the benefits of having slightly reduced matchmaking times and slightly better overall match quality. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than the old system? Absolutely. I'm sorry that you cannot accept change and think that your opinion is more important that the greater good.

#26 Blood Skar

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 12:36 PM

View PostxWiredx, on 19 November 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

Yet another thread about voting, because 10 of them isn't enough. Everybody needs their own.

Voting works. The weighting mechanism works as intended. We now have all game modes and maps on a more equal footing that we did previously with the benefits of having slightly reduced matchmaking times and slightly better overall match quality. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than the old system? Absolutely. I'm sorry that you cannot accept change and think that your opinion is more important that the greater good.


A lot of threads about voting...hmm...now i wonder why that would be........

It's not about 'accepting change' it's about making the game better. The current voting system has made it worse (imo and it seems many agree).
It's now worse than when it was first installed because players are farming votes. I.E. deliberately choosing bad maps and conquest thinking they wont get their vote and will get +1 to votes....do you follow that?
I just came from a Terra Therma/ Conquest before reading the forum...how many players out of 10 do you think would chose that?(1 in 10 at most i would suggest) - players are only picking it thinking they will get +1 vote 'points'.

1, Give us back the drop down mode selector.
2, Leave map voting as it is.
(i think most of the negative comments are about modes and not map selection - personally i wouldnt mind what map im playing but to play a map i dont like AND a mode i used to have switched off is just too much).

Edited by Blood Skar, 19 November 2015 - 01:03 PM.


#27 xWiredx

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 12:54 PM

I would love to see global PGI-farmed statistics to confirm this, but I personally have started to see waiting times reduced by 25-50% depending on time of day and less complete stomps. Now that the weighting mechanism is implemented, I also see a bigger variety of maps and modes. I'm pretty sure the world is not ending.

#28 Mustang

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 06:27 PM

Screwed the wait times what good does it do if it speeds it up 100% but you end up in a game mode you are not wanting to play,id rather wait 4-5 mins or longer if im getting into a game I enjoy than being rushed into one I hate ( conquest)

#29 stuh42l

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 06:34 PM

Sitting on a x9 map multiplier right now, even weighted my vote means nothing!

#30 MW222

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 06:39 PM

Seeing maps and game modes that are not displayed to be voted on just showing up.

This is slowly moving from a joke and turning in to a tragic misstep.

Load balancing on players necks and dimes is a non starter.

PGI are you listening?


Edited by MW222, 19 November 2015 - 07:24 PM.


#31 Osiris513

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 07:29 PM

look since you seem to be hell bent on keeping this TERRIBLE voting idea in the game... why not give people a choice to "opt in" for voting mode or "opt out" and use the old system? because I'm guessing 99% of people will opt out....

Seriously though, listen to your playerbase, remove this terrible thing that makes the game UNFUN for most of the people playing.... I used to love this game, but now I honestly want my money back.

#32 Lunatic_Asylum

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 07:33 PM

View PostBlood Skar, on 19 November 2015 - 12:36 PM, said:

1, Give us back the drop down mode selector.
2, Leave map voting as it is.


I disagree. Map voting is the worst for me.

#33 Rejarial Galatan

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 08:44 PM

I am with Mustang, but, for me, its skirmish i cannot stand. Our freedom to choose what we want to play and our freedom to refuse what we do not want to play has been stolen from us in the name of what? speeding crap up? I am sorry this is beyond wrong and probably bordering on criminal negligence if you ask me.

When you no longer can choose how you want to play or how you play is taken from you, its no longer a game to be enjoyed. When your freedom to refuse to play what you do not want is taken from you, it is no longer a game to be enjoyed. When you are punished for trying to find a way to get away from what you do not want to be a part of, that is just evil.

We used to be able to decide what we played here, we used to be able to leave the mode we did not want free from the fear of reprisal or banishment. We no longer have that freedom, but, by god we have the ILLUSION we can choose and thats something right? HAHAHA! NO. It is NOTHING BUT POISON.

#34 FinnMcKool

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 10:34 PM

Im sorry if I was attacking anyone personally,
I really dont want to do that,


look what your map voting thing has done,
why some folks need to tell others what they can and cant do Ill never understand , it just causes people to hate and disrespect you.

#35 MadFJohn

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 11:05 PM

View PostxWiredx, on 19 November 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

I would love to see global PGI-farmed statistics to confirm this, but I personally have started to see waiting times reduced by 25-50% depending on time of day and less complete stomps. Now that the weighting mechanism is implemented, I also see a bigger variety of maps and modes. I'm pretty sure the world is not ending.

where your times has gone down me and 40 of my friends wait time has gone up. and when i wood get on befor this vote thing i would see about 30 of my friends on . now i am lucky to see one of them on in a few days. so where i would go drop with friends to have fun i now have to pug. i only play after my kid goes to bed so i only have 8 games at most. now i do not have friends to drop with to have fun and i have to play games i do not lick. so tell me how is this vote helping this game when more players are leaving it? now i read the forums and hope they reset it back. till them i will not play unless a friend asks me to which they will not for they are not playing as well.

#36 Mustang

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 07:16 AM

PGI WAKEUP !!!!!!!

#37 CainenEX

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 07:19 AM

I haven't had much issues with the voting and managed to have a health selection of game modes (my favorite being conquest). Match maker time was favorable and i didn't have to wait long for a match. While the system could use some adjustments I think weight voting will still let the occasional Alpine or Terra Therma through, which is fine.

Should this system not work then my last suggestion, until a bigger playerbase can lower match making times, would be to scrap voting and game mode selection. When people pick quick play they would be randomly assigned their game mode and map. I believe that is a fair system if it needs to replace this one.

#38 Tuis Ryche

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 11:16 AM

I sure do love the faster matchmaking times to drop in modes I don't ever play unless an event requires me to check those boxes. Actually, I hadn't really noticed much of a change in matchmaking times. Not that I cared before. I'd much rather wait an extra bit of time to play a mode I want to play than get shuffled off into a mode I don't.

As for the argument about adding game modes in the future, I think PGI should figure out the ones they have before finding new ****** modes to force me into. PGI should focus on the quality of their product to attract people and therefore reduce matchmaking times rather than herding people into modes they don't want to play and therefore driving those once-loyal customers away.

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 11:34 AM

I never had issues with wait times in the solo queue because I rarely waited 2 minutes and it was usually less than 1. What was the voting system supposed to fix? If wait times were long in the group queue, put it there but why put it in the solo queue where there were no match wait time problems?

#40 MW222

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 07:58 PM

View PostxWiredx, on 19 November 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

Yet another thread about voting, because 10 of them isn't enough. Everybody needs their own.

Voting works. The weighting mechanism works as intended. We now have all game modes and maps on a more equal footing that we did previously with the benefits of having slightly reduced matchmaking times and slightly better overall match quality. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than the old system? Absolutely. I'm sorry that you cannot accept change and think that your opinion is more important that the greater good.

No not really, players who like Conquest do not like Skirmish, Assault players don't like Conquest and so on, I prefer Skirmish and do not like playing the other modes. CW is just plain annoying to me at least, so my days are or were spent playing on the NA server in Skirmish. Now it's getting to the point that I would rather do something else.

When you are FORCED to do anything it builds resentment and PGI is creating a toxic back lash.


Edited by MW222, 20 November 2015 - 07:59 PM.






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