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[R1CK D0M]

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

[AssaultPig]

shoulda been more aggressive early in the game!

[Bishop Steiner]

don't you just hate it when you drop on MWO, and people think the only thing to do is a mindless murderball peektart fest? CoD Online, as it were?

Yeah, I do too, which is why I appreciate a good Conquest match every 3-4th match thanks to weighted voting.

Because ya know...tactics and mobile warfare don't scare me.

[FlipOver]

R1CK D0M, on 19 November 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

I like playing conquest.
It's not just a matter of finding the enemy, blob up and smash.
You need to have people paying attention to the points as-well as to the enemy. The caps done, being done and being removed.
The anticipation of enemy movement according to cap points or just according to scout intel.

People just need to know how to play the game modes. You get stuck with a team that doesn't and it's basically the same as any other game mode. You lose, and worst part is, you lose when you actually had hope...
Some examples for other game modes:

Assault - Almost wining and get fully capped.

Skirmish - You and another 2 are beating down 5 enemies, you beat 3 and its now 3-2 but those 2 enemies are good ACH pilots and your 2 teammates are LRM boats. You try to do your best but... you will lose.

So, it's not the game mode that's the problem, it's the teams you get stuck with and against.

[Gnume]

That's what happens when a team attempts to play Skirmish on a Conquest map ... it's all about the Skirmish till it's not

[TexAce]

R1CK D0M, on 19 November 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

I'm pretty sure the enemy team was fine with conquest on that match. Since you know, they played it better and won.


See how the world does not revolve around you only?

Edited by TexAce, 19 November 2015 - 05:11 AM.

[Mystere]

R1CK D0M, on 19 November 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

No, you actually had no hope of winning. The enemy just decided to give you a taste before taking it all away.

<maniacal >

[Lugh]

R1CK D0M, on 19 November 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

Don't you just hate it when your team isn't smart enough to keep enough conquest points capture / neutral so that doesn't happen quickly?

Me too.

[DarthHias]

Getting outsmarted hurts huh? The worst part is they took your team down AND capped everything, so your team failed on every possible level. If it had been Skirmish you would have gotten stomped really hard.

[Paigan]

R1CK D0M, on 19 November 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

If I understand it correctly, you are complaining that battles can have objectives aside from a trivial "kill everything"?
You can choose some adjectives yourself how I find that, but I guess you know what I mean.

Imagine you have to protect a strategic target (americans might imagine their holy "Mr. President" here).
Or kill a strategic target.

Would you just leave your actual objective and dive into a funny brawl and then be all of a sudden "Oh, man, why did we lose the battle? It was such a nice brawl!"

Think about it. Then search for appropriate adjectives that describe that way of thinking.
I can't write them myself because of CoC.

Edited by Paigan, 19 November 2015 - 06:21 AM.

[TamCoan]

I love a good skirmish match, takes more than just shooting people! As Paigan just said, I'd love more objective modes like that!

[Sjorpha]

R1CK D0M, on 19 November 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

Don't you just hate it when you're down on mechs, but you're fighting well and putting up a stand and then the game just ends? You're giving the enemy what for even though you're at a disadvantage and you can see a glimmer of hope that if things keep continuing this way, we can turn it around, but nope points happened? Yeah I do too.

Just now I had a game where it was 2 against 4+, with us having a Hunchback and an ACH. We had just reduced them to 3 and were tag teaming a lone KGC and winning, and then we got shut down on caps. The frustration!

I dunno I kind of just wanted to vent but also maybe the people who vote for conquest can see a different point of view?

Anyone else like to share stories of conquest games where you've been cockblocked/party pooped on?

I don't really understand how you "were winning" if you hadn't done your job capping/decapping. In objective based game modes keeping track of the objectives and win conditions are as much part of the skillset as killing mechs are.

The opposite situation is equally relevant you know, if you are winning on caps and the enemy "cockblocks" your win by killing you that is no different from your story just reversed.

Any game mode with multiple win conditions are like that. You can block a cap win by killing, or a kill win by capping in both assault and conquest. If you lose it's because you didn't play either the cap or kill game well enough.

[Monkey Lover]

Most the time you see hope because a few went to cap. There was never any real hope there.

[JernauM]

Standing in a box is not the kind of gameplay I'm looking for in a multiplayer shooting game. Objectives should encourage fire-fights, not end them.

[Lhunara]

I hate it when it is conquest, nobody says anything... so I go cap in my light mech...

And see that the rest of the team went looking for a fight... and suck at fighting.
They die like dogs and then accuse me of not getting in the fight.

[Monkey Lover]

Lhunara, on 19 November 2015 - 07:10 AM, said:

I hate it when it is conquest, nobody says anything... so I go cap in my light mech...

And see that the rest of the team went looking for a fight... and suck at fighting. &lt;_&lt;
They die like dogs and then accuse me of not getting in the fight.

I can understand people wanting you in the fight . One good light pilot can win the game. I would send mediums to cap before I sent my lights.

[Almond Brown]

JernauM, on 19 November 2015 - 07:09 AM, said:

Standing in a box is not the kind of gameplay I'm looking for in a multiplayer shooting game. Objectives should encourage fire-fights, not end them.

Funny that. I remember some of the BEST EVER fire-fights were fought over Conquest points. At least those that were won had a real if only a secondary value. But whatever floats ones boat right?

Can you provide some "Objective" based play modes that do not actually have "Objectives" that need actual "Capture or Securing" and how does that Capturing and Securing happen?

Edited by Almond Brown, 19 November 2015 - 08:12 AM.

[GRiPSViGiL]

What you describe that match is exactly why conquest is the best mode. It allows for much more movement and better chance for lance on lance interactions and definitely more chance for compelling endings.

[Ghogiel]

If you want less of that, try to get a higher tier. Fewer higher tier players spread out and go to cap, since more have learned that they just end up as dessert for the enemy after they finish the battle that actually decided the match. As soon as the shooting starts the match is over in 5mins and cap wins are rare.

Edited by Ghogiel, 19 November 2015 - 08:24 AM.

[Balder Shadow]

Mystere, on 19 November 2015 - 05:13 AM, said:

No, you actually had no hope of winning. The enemy just decided to give you a taste before taking it all away.

<maniacal >

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