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[Mycrus]

1453 R, on 27 November 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

He's saying the Marauder is undersized, compared to the 'Average 75-Tonner' mark determined by averaging out pixel counts amongst existing machines. it's the same chart people used to argue that the Nova is twice the size it should be.

Given how much flak Piranha gets over...everything...I don't really blame them for erring on the side of small with 'Mechs like the Marauder. What would this nasty toxic playerbase have done to them if the thing was Krab-sized?

Look at the other weight classes... its not an average of... looks like lolcust was used as the tons per pixel benchmark...

[Madcap72]

Lostdragon, on 28 November 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

If anything besides volume mattered you might have a point, but a mech that is half the size of the others,in it's tonnage category is going to be relatively much harder to hit. Volume matters in the game and density does not. To achieve some semblance of balance all the mechs in a tonnage category need to be pretty close in volume or you wind up with mechs being much "tankier" than equivalent tonnage mechs due to smaller size making it harder to consistently hit one component.

Right, I agree to a point. But so many people try to argue about scaling from subjective view of what fictional materials should equate to volume wise.

But the flip side of the argument is, if this is going to be a BT game, why arbitrarily create a balance of volume when there are mechs that straight up just suck, but people like and are fun to play? *cough* urbie *cough*.

[Gas Guzzler]

zagibu, on 27 November 2015 - 04:22 PM, said:

So their recent trend continues. Makes older mechs even more obsolete.

Orion: Already obsolete
Timber Wolf: NOT obsolete in any way shape or form.

So yeah no.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 29 November 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

Orion: born obsolete
Timber Wolf: NOT obsolete in any way shape or form.

So yeah no.

FTFY

[Lostdragon]

Madcap72, on 29 November 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

Right, I agree to a point. But so many people try to argue about scaling from subjective view of what fictional materials should equate to volume wise.

But the flip side of the argument is, if this is going to be a BT game, why arbitrarily create a balance of volume when there are mechs that straight up just suck, but people like and are fun to play? *cough* urbie *cough*.

That's asinine, why would you not want to make mechs as balanced as possible? Some mechs like the Urban Mech may not translate well to successful MWO mechs, but why make a mech disadvantage more than it should be due to poor relative scaling? There is not even an argument or counter point there, that's just meaningless word vomit.

[Tennex]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 November 2015 - 10:24 PM, said:

would have preferred taller, skinnier and less booty. But it is what it is. At least in a few of the "action shots" on the Countdown, it actually looks OK... and funnily enough, a fair bit like the Reseen Phoenix Version. Well, a lil more like the Marauder II/IIC




of course, it's an optical illusion, because the torso is waaaaay longer, but still, it's there.

yeah it looks a lot of a combination of many of the marauder designs