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[DJFrost]

Every time an event runs I see the queues fill up with troll accounts, players who give no care for team play or coms and groups of 4-8 that just take off on their own and leave the rest of the team to take the damage. There needs to be restrictions put on these events to help avoid more players like that. If you only play during the events, or are here to troll, you do not deserve the prizes. there are those out there who have worked their asses off trying to improve their piloting and gameplay and it is just a slap in the face to have those players screw the game and take the prizes and leave you as cannon fodder no matter how you play and you end up with barely anything.

I would love to see a 1v1 challenge area made for public to test a lot of these players and have a chance to chew them apart.

[Bobzilla]

It could be they are bad because they only play once every two months. And think, you get to have easy kills because they aren't only on your team.

[Tuis Ryche]

Some industrious players fattening up alt accounts with double xp and easy money/prizes, too.

What mechanic do you propose to filter out these opportunistic 'trolls' from the hard-working, real Mechwarriors?

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Unenforceable, and largely unnecessary. Besides, if you run an event to boost player count, and then you boost player count, then hasn't it done exactly what it was meant to do?

[adamts01]

Gameplay does take a nose dive. I just bring my carry mech and eat all the little ones that only play tournaments. I had a 600,000 cbill conquest last night with zero bonuses. You just have to carry is all.

[Sandpit]

The whole premise of an event and bonus rewards is to attract more players. If you restricted it, it would completely defeat the purpose of the event in the first place.

[Madcap72]

Got most of the solo awards in 6 drops, and finished out in 10.


This was the easiest event ever, and everyone I played with was on the ball.


Simple mileage difference.

[Vellron2005]

Its the event.. people play differently, wining is not the priority (unless it giver rewards), and just doing damage is king.

That's just the way things are during events..

I dropped last night a few CW Defense matches where the enemy team didn't even try to go for the gens, or omega, or even try to win in any way, shape or form.

Instead, they all just focused on doing as much damage, kills and assists as possible, because they all need the scores for the event. So do I.

The event requirements dictate player behavior.

If the event called for wining matches (like it did during the famous Tukayyid event), you would see a dramatic shift in play styles.

The current challenge event requires damage, kills, assists and xp. And that's great. Brings a change of pace from chasing the win, and just playing for fun..

[Soultraxx]

adamts01, on 26 November 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

Gameplay does take a nose dive. I just bring my carry mech and eat all the little ones that only play tournaments. I had a 600,000 cbill conquest last night with zero bonuses. You just have to carry is all.

This is what I do, but to a less successful degree as Im not a particularly good player. But I get my prizes eventually.

[Raggedyman]

DJFrost, on 26 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Every time an event runs I see the queues fill up with troll accounts, players who give no care for team play or coms and groups of 4-8 that just take off on their own and leave the rest of the team to take the damage. There needs to be restrictions put on these events to help avoid more players like that. If you only play during the events, or are here to troll, you do not deserve the prizes. there are those out there who have worked their asses off trying to improve their piloting and gameplay and it is just a slap in the face to have those players screw the game and take the prizes and leave you as cannon fodder no matter how you play and you end up with barely anything.

I would love to see a 1v1 challenge area made for public to test a lot of these players and have a chance to chew them apart.

Two things:

1 - The big point of such events is to draw people that don't play the game that often back to the game, to hopefully spend some cash and hang around more. People that play the game anyway would play the game anyway, they are not the main target audience for these things.

2 - Ignoring point 1 (because who needs money to operate an online game...) How the heck would you go around enforcing such a thing? What criteria would you have for cutting out the carpet baggers who have just turned up for the goodies? how would you distinguish a 4 or 8 man ignoring the PUGs from the PUGs ignoring the 4 or 8 man? How the heck do you define trolling in this situation?

I'm not saying there isn't a problem happening here, BTW. Just asking for you to think it through a bit more and offer up a practical solution.

Edited by Raggedyman, 27 November 2015 - 05:06 AM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

LOL it is not the alt account players who do not know how to play. If they have tier 1 or tier 2 mains their alt accounts will still eat the average MWO player alive. Events bring out the underhive masses. That is why games are so bad. When an underhive pug meets a premade it is always a slaughter.

You idiots think the alt accounts are playing yet? Even the best players would take most of yesterday to finish all the rewards on their mains....

[Kotzi]

Dont really see any difference to my "normal" days. But thats just my personal experience.

[Mawai]

DJFrost, on 26 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Every time an event runs I see the queues fill up with troll accounts, players who give no care for team play or coms and groups of 4-8 that just take off on their own and leave the rest of the team to take the damage. There needs to be restrictions put on these events to help avoid more players like that. If you only play during the events, or are here to troll, you do not deserve the prizes. there are those out there who have worked their asses off trying to improve their piloting and gameplay and it is just a slap in the face to have those players screw the game and take the prizes and leave you as cannon fodder no matter how you play and you end up with barely anything.

I would love to see a 1v1 challenge area made for public to test a lot of these players and have a chance to chew them apart.

Individuals who do this aren't a big deal since if they want to achieve the event goals they will be in the fight since you make more XP. cbills, kills, assists and wins if you are actually fighting (and these are the things that are needed for the event). If teams are retreating to let others take the brunt of the damage ... don't let them. Follow them, get behind them and let them take the initial damage.

On the other hand, if you are choosing to not stay with the team because you feel they are doing the wrong thing ... then I can tell you which part is making the mistake. Team work is OP in MWO and a bad group with a bad strategy working as a team will usually win over good players who are playing solo and just doing their own thing.

Finally, in these games do you say something over VOIP or type anything in chat? Simple words like "group up and focus fire" can have an effect. It is obvious to anyone who has played for a while but newer players and some others still don't get that you are generally stronger together than apart.

[Chuanhao]

I apologize that as I cannot put in as much time as some to be the best virtual mech jock, I do maximize what playing time I have and events certainly help as they are the best bang for the buck.

And when I do play, I am still learning. So tAking off solo in an ARCheetah is my attempt at learning scouting, and maybe finding that solo DWF belonging to a fellow PUG.

And of course event criteria drives behavior.

at the end, public queue is what it is. Public. It means I find all sorts. I thought tiers was suppose to address this. So u as a tier 1? Will never meet me a perennial tier 4

Otherwise, since some have the time to play, then why not organize properly for private PT matches against people u know will give u the game u want

There is just no two ways. Public is public.

[Dread Render]

I think the peeps you are complaining about probably make up the majority of my kills on these events.
um... but anyway, no lets not Filter out other People because they don't play like you want them to.

[Galenit]

DJFrost, on 26 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

There needs to be restrictions put on these events to help avoid more players like that. If you only play during the events, or are here to troll, you do not deserve the prizes.

The events are for these players, they are the target group.
They dont need to lure players that allready play and pay, they want new players.

It would be logical to restrict players like you to give the new players a better experience.
But that would drow them in tears and cost them players, thats why people like you still get some prieces.

Basic marketing for the rest of the world,
dont know how it works in the land of the wooden cabins, war and torture.

Edit:

Soultraxx, on 27 November 2015 - 04:21 AM, said:

This is what I do, but to a less successful degree as Im not a particularly good player. But I get my prizes eventually.

Got the quick challenges by doing the basics (and a little part of the elite) of two new buyed shadowcats.
Half of the cw challenges i did by still using the shadowcats and two timbers (doing the elite of them) i have buyed month ago, but not played much,

Edited by Galenit, 27 November 2015 - 07:12 AM.

[InspectorG]

Bobzilla, on 26 November 2015 - 06:48 PM, said:

And think, you get to have easy kills because they aren't only on your team.

Exactly, its feast or famine with teammates.
I either get a team that is super aggro, or i get team of boyscouts camping in their mechs.

Take a mech you can level up for the bonus and dont expect much.

or take your best murder machine.

It will be very up and down.

[Kdogg788]

Galenit, on 27 November 2015 - 07:03 AM, said:

The events are for these players, they are the target group.
They dont need to lure players that allready play and pay, they want new players.

It would be logical to restrict players like you to give the new players a better experience.
But that would drow them in tears and cost them players, thats why people like you still get some prieces.

Basic marketing for the rest of the world,
dont know how it works in the land of the wooden cabins, war and torture.


Edit:

Got the quick challenges by doing the basics (and a little part of the elite) of two new buyed shadowcats.
Half of the cw challenges i did by still using the shadowcats and two timbers (doing the elite of them) i have buyed month ago, but not played much,

This is of course the reason. Of course you will always have the l33t players who piss and moan that it's too easy but that's one percent of one percent.
-k

[DjPush]

Or. Get gud?

Edited by DjPush, 27 November 2015 - 07:47 AM.

[The Very Old German Wolf]

Just had 9 games in a row where the whole team just runs away from their assaults to lose the game 12-1 or12-3, I swear so many morons as this weekend I have seldom seen, I have given up playing for this weekend as it is a total was of time, MM working as intended my ar$e, Steam will be such a big fail that it will make history. Absolutly no fun what so ever atm, time to play AW.