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Ezekeel666, on 07 December 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

If you are a developer of a niche F2P game and build a game mode that the majority of players cannot enjoy who really is at fault?

Could it be that they designed that game mode for that smaller part of the community who still enjoys that type of games?
Many games have game modes for small parts of the community. Also when you play solo queue you see lots of players who are part of a unit. You see even more of those players in group queue. I'd even say that from the active players a very large percentage are in a unit and could play cw in a group created from their unit mates or maybe from a combination of couple of units.

Also being a pug has nothing to do with enjoying cw. If you play the game mode the way it is meant to be played you will do well and you are more likely to like it. You know communicating with your team. Planning, calling targets and sharing all sorts of info. You can do all this by using voip. Most groups don't practice together and could do everything they do even without teamspeak using the in game voip but they often choose to use ts or some other program because they get better sound quality in ts and you can talk even outside of matches.

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Ezekeel666, on 07 December 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

If you are a developer of a niche F2P game and build a game mode that the majority of players cannot enjoy who really is at fault?

They made separate queues and tier level separation for the players that refuse to employ the teamwork skill in their pursuit of having a fun time.

So there's a place for those people to go, if they want to have fun in the mode that designed around required teamwork then they need to expand their skill set. As it stands if you are a competent player, that is willing to communicate with your team and employ at least a moderate level of teamwork you can have a blast in CW regardless of who you play.

If you can't be bothered you make the mode worse for yourself and 23 other players.

[Almond Brown]

Alan Davion, on 07 December 2015 - 07:18 AM, said:

And you know what, if they'd balanced things properly from the start, i.e, making the whole game be IS only until they'd worked their way through ALL IS mechs first, having a proper heat cap and proper ECM/BAP mechanics, along with a few others I can't think of right now... Maybe they wouldn't be having so many GD problems with the overall game balance?

But no, we had the Clans thrust upon the game before it was ready, with an insane heat cap, broken ECM/BAP mechanics and a whole slew of other problems. So yes, this is a problem of PGI's own making, and it's going to continue to be that way until they get the core issues sorted out once and for all.

Drastically lowering the heat cap is frankly the best thing they can do right now, people should not be able to fire all the crap they do as fast as they currently can. Once that's done, balancing weapons and junk will become immensely easier.

Your Battle-tech game is on its way dawg. Just relax, unbunch those panties and wait. HBS is making exactly what you want. Something you can play against a non-human opponent and can set the difficult level such that you are ALWAYS the STAR of the show at all times. Be sure to opt in to the Fund raiser too ok.

Edited by Almond Brown, 07 December 2015 - 10:18 AM.

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Alan Davion, on 06 December 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

And how does that work when there's an event going that requires you to play in CW?

I'm kind of concerned about this. I didn't know that I was required to do anything. I'm glad I complied or I'd be in trouble...

Alistair Winter, on 06 December 2015 - 11:05 PM, said:

Damn. As soon as you said that, the factions are going to start Nascaring around the galaxy map, going clockwise and counter-clockwise around Terra. It's going to be the meta-Nascar.

I'm calling it right now.

Heck yes. We should actually do this for fun. It would be quite hilarious and screenshot worthy.

[Sandpit]

Ezekeel666, on 07 December 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

If you are a developer of a niche F2P game and build a game mode that the majority of players cannot enjoy who really is at fault?

please show me your statistics where the majority of players cannot or do not enjoy CW. Then we'll talk.

[Sandpit]

Alan Davion, on 06 December 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

And how does that work when there's an event going that requires you to play in CW?

The same way it works when you're "required" to play solo for those events.

It's funny. I sure don't see any of those hardcore CW players and teams QQing on the forums every time there's a solo queue event for rewards about being "forced" to play solo queue.

Grow up. The entire game does not revolve around you. You ahve a perfectly good, fun, robust, and viable section of the game dedicated exclusively to the style of game play you seem to enjoy. You have regular and fairly often events in those queues to earn tons of rewards.

Stop trying to make it sound like you're a poor solo player left out in the cold with no chance to earn stuff and participate in fun events. Nobody believes it as anyone who has been here for any length of time knows it's completely and factually false. Period.

[Stelar 7]

We just finished an event with solo rewards. You claiming the game is ruined because an event for less than one week didn't cater to people who play a team game to be alone is not absurd. It is the very definition of hubris. Go cry to you therapist they are paid to care.

[Alan Davion]

Almond Brown, on 07 December 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Your Battle-tech game is on its way dawg. Just relax, unbunch those panties and wait. HBS is making exactly what you want. Something you can play against a non-human opponent and can set the difficult level such that you are ALWAYS the STAR of the show at all times. Be sure to opt in to the Fund raiser too ok.

I've already bought into the HBS game, so your point is moot. My point however has clearly gone straight over your head.

Dino Might, on 07 December 2015 - 10:31 AM, said:

I'm kind of concerned about this. I didn't know that I was required to do anything. I'm glad I complied or I'd be in trouble...

Sandpit, on 07 December 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

1. The same way it works when you're "required" to play solo for those events.

2. It's funny. I sure don't see any of those hardcore CW players and teams QQing on the forums every time there's a solo queue event for rewards about being "forced" to play solo queue.

3. Grow up. The entire game does not revolve around you. You ahve a perfectly good, fun, robust, and viable section of the game dedicated exclusively to the style of game play you seem to enjoy. You have regular and fairly often events in those queues to earn tons of rewards.

4. Stop trying to make it sound like you're a poor solo player left out in the cold with no chance to earn stuff and participate in fun events. Nobody believes it as anyone who has been here for any length of time knows it's completely and factually false. Period.

1. You clearly missed my point by a mile.

2. Because those hardcore players can zip through those solo events in one sitting because they've maxed out the mech(s) they use for those events. Where as a lot of other people don't have that kind of time available to them to just crunch out game after game like some zombie.

3 and 4. I seriously don't even know how or where the hell you got those kinds of delusions. You must live one extremely charmed life.

[MechPorn]

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Mermak DiMarco, on 06 December 2015 - 09:05 PM, said:

Thank you for ruining my love of the Battletech Universe. While I enjoy stomping around in a giant armored behemoth, your treatment of the "match-making" system (Yes I used quotes, since it makes matches, but not balance) is just horribad.

As a single player, this event has brought out what most of us, except yourselves, know. This game is not made for single players. I don't wish to join a group of "Elite" players and play for hours at a time. Sure, I don't expect to be the best person on the team, but I do expect enjoyment, especially if I am paying. Sadly, thats not the case here. If you can't manage to do what most other MOBA games do, and put premades vs premades and singles vs singles, you should seriously look at some further widening of your dev skillset.

Technically, I love the game. The mechs look awesome, I love how the weapon systems work, and I think your battlefields look amazing. I can see you're actively working to try to balance ECM and some of the other mechanics.

How about now, you spend some time catering to those of us who want a FUN game to play, not something that generates more stress?

Sound like you don't know the first thing about building mechs or playing properly.

If you'd like to message me your current mech builds with smurphy's mechlab link, I'll make gentle suggestions as to where you can improve your builds.

This will be something that takes TIME, especially if you are a part time FROOB(play for free have no purchased goodies) it will still take time but be somewhat faster if you have the mechs already purchased.

[Sandpit]

Alan Davion, on 07 December 2015 - 11:46 AM, said:

I've already bought into the HBS game, so your point is moot. My point however has clearly gone straight over your head.




1. You clearly missed my point by a mile.

2. Because those hardcore players can zip through those solo events in one sitting because they've maxed out the mech(s) they use for those events. Where as a lot of other people don't have that kind of time available to them to just crunch out game after game like some zombie.

3 and 4. I seriously don't even know how or where the hell you got those kinds of delusions. You must live one extremely charmed life.

No I didn't, you're mad because you were "forced" to participate in a completely optional tournament designed heavily around teams and teamwork that didn't prevent you from being able to play the game or advance in the game in any way shape or form
period

EDIT:
This might be YOUR first "QQ woe as me I'm a solo player thread and CW is mean to me and premades touch me in bad places" thread, but it's not mine unfortunately.

Edited by Sandpit, 07 December 2015 - 12:01 PM.