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[izzycat218]

i think this will become the next CW meta mech. er large with module reach out to 911 meters for optimum range.

[AlmightyAeng]

Nah. Other mechs do it for better heat quotas and less weight, with better hitboxes/profile.

[Lyoto Machida]

izzycat218, on 08 December 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

i think this will become the next CW meta mech. er large with module reach out to 911 meters for optimum range.

BLR-1S already does that at a faster speed. No JJs but you don't really need them for ERLL boating. XL400 with 4 LPL is great also.

[izzycat218]

guess we'll wait and see.

[izzycat218]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 December 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

BLR-1S already does that at a faster speed. No JJs but you don't really need them for ERLL boating. XL400 with 4 LPL is great also.

I faced this mech and build yesterday and won the exchange. Yes it's faster but I have a dead side with standard engine. I believe with quirks I have more armor and structure than some other assaults. It's bittersweet to know old mechs can still compete. Builds never change only the chassi does at this point in the game.

[pwnface]

izzycat218, on 09 December 2015 - 09:47 AM, said:

I faced this mech and build yesterday and won the exchange. Yes it's faster but I have a dead side with standard engine. I believe with quirks I have more armor and structure than some other assaults. It's bittersweet to know old mechs can still compete. Builds never change only the chassi does at this point in the game.

Winning in one exchange against a random player doesn't mean your build is better. Player skill matters much more when your build are that similar. In any case, I think the mobility of running an XL400 on a BLR-1S gives it an advantage in getting favorable trades. CDA-X5 ERLL reaches out to 979m by the way...

[Weeny Machine]

Laser spam...so fun...

[izzycat218]

This is true. I was giving my experience so far. I would think the XL makes it far more vulnerable.

Bush Hopper, on 09 December 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

Laser spam...so fun...

What else do you expect from the Highlanders?

[Cruxs]

Zeus 9S also does this with 4 ERLL and a standard engine, good speed, and a dead side. I think the range is a little shorter.

[izzycat218]

cruxholzer, on 09 December 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:

Zeus 9S also does this with 4 ERLL and a standard engine, good speed, and a dead side. I think the range is a little shorter.

Ah. I'll stick with the original.

[Gas Guzzler]

Bush Hopper, on 09 December 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

Laser spam...so fun...

What other weapons are good at the 900-1000m range? There will never be. Throughout the entire game's existence there has never been a better extreme range sniping weapon than an ERLL. Maybe ER PPCs when they were lower heat and extremely fast (2000m/s fast) or Gauss, but they have both been nerfed now. You are better off with ER LLs, this isn't really unexpected and there is almost never another good option for that situation.

[Lugh]

izzycat218, on 09 December 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

This is true. I was giving my experience so far. I would think the XL makes it far more vulnerable.



What else do you expect from the Highlanders?

In the good ole days it was PPCx2 Gauss for the win baby!

Gas Guzzler, on 09 December 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

What other weapons are good at the 900-1000m range? There will never be. Throughout the entire game's existence there has never been a better extreme range sniping weapon than an ERLL. Maybe ER PPCs when they were lower heat and extremely fast (2000m/s fast) or Gauss, but they have both been nerfed now. You are better off with ER LLs, this isn't really unexpected and there is almost never another good option for that situation.

Not to split hairs but it's hardly sniping when you are announcing the incoming fire with a beam of light.

The true sniping of the PPC Gauss era was more daunting because it was harder to see where it came from...

[izzycat218]

Lugh, on 09 December 2015 - 12:24 PM, said:

In the good ole days it was PPCx2 Gauss for the win baby!

Haven't resurrected that build yet.

[FitzSimmons]

izzycat218, on 08 December 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

er large with module reach out to 911 meters for optimum range.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is an ER LL range module.

Nothing to see here...

Edited by FitzSimmons, 09 December 2015 - 01:18 PM.

[izzycat218]

FitzSimmons, on 09 December 2015 - 01:12 PM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is an ER LL range module.

There is one gives 10% extra range

[FitzSimmons]

izzycat218, on 09 December 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

There is one gives 10% extra range

Hah, just found it. Some alphabetization would go a long way for that screen.

[Euklides]

There is this mando that has 1013 meter range (including range module).

Oh and, ignore the silly armour distributions on backs and fronts, just me being lazy.

Sure serves well at being annoying at extreme ranges but that is about it.

Edited by Euklides, 09 December 2015 - 01:22 PM.

[izzycat218]

Euklides, on 09 December 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

There is this mando that has 1013 meter range (including range module).

Oh and, ignore the silly armour distributions on backs and fronts, just me being lazy.

Sure serves well at being annoying at extreme ranges but that is about it.

I'm going to do it and hope for alpine lol

[pwnface]

Lugh, on 09 December 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

In the good ole days it was PPCx2 Gauss for the win baby!


Not to split hairs but it's hardly sniping when you are announcing the incoming fire with a beam of light.

The true sniping of the PPC Gauss era was more daunting because it was harder to see where it came from...

Traditionally, sniping means shooting from a place of concealment. However in gaming sniping is almost always colloquially used as long range combat. PPC/Gauss isn't exactly difficult to spot flying across the battlefield either. Actually we've found that on Boreal ERLL works better because it helps other teammates focus fire. If you can't see a target you can just see where all the other blue lasers are going and shoot the same guy.

[Lyoto Machida]

izzycat218, on 09 December 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

This is true. I was giving my experience so far. I would think the XL makes it far more vulnerable.

Well, your anecdotal sample size of one head to head matchup between your Highlander and an XL Battlemaster isn't exactly conclusive evidence. Maybe you are right and maybe you aren't but there needs to be more data than that.