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[Kogrek]

Yea so I have played lots of games (reaching Gold in LoL), but that doesn't mean I am necessarily good at games. I started playing MWO about 2 months ago. I have lost every game tonight....and I can see why! My allies do not play mechs as intended, etc, blah blah blah. But what got me was when my team was against an entire guilded team (12bg), that it got to me. Really? A no guild team against an all guild team? why would you do that? I suppose in the end it doesn't matter, as I can easily jump games. I guess I expected more from the mech warrior franchise.

[Y E O N N E]

Were you playing Faction Warfare? It sounds like you were playing Faction Warfare.

Unless you have a group, I wouldn't recommend playing Faction Warfare. Especially not as a solo in Smoke Jag, one of the most underpopulated factions. Go find one of the faction TeamSpeak servers and drop with them for Faction Warfare.

Otherwise, hone those skills in solo drops.

[Xetelian]

Faction/Clan warfare is for guilds/units not individuals to pug.

You should only go into faction war if you have 4 mastered mechs with modules as you opponents will likely have these things.

You should find a unit to enjoy clan war, without a guild it is not fun.


Stick to quick queue for MWO until you're ready for faction war.

[Aresye]

Kogrek, on 09 January 2016 - 08:04 PM, said:

Yea so I have played lots of games (reaching Gold in LoL), but that doesn't mean I am necessarily good at games. I started playing MWO about 2 months ago. I have lost every game tonight....and I can see why! My allies do not play mechs as intended, etc, blah blah blah. But what got me was when my team was against an entire guilded team (12bg), that it got to me. Really? A no guild team against an all guild team? why would you do that? I suppose in the end it doesn't matter, as I can easily jump games. I guess I expected more from the mech warrior franchise.

I take it this is Faction Warfare we're talking about?

There's no way I can sugar coat this, so instead I'll just give you the teaspoon of sugar prior: You're not bad.

If you're relatively new to the game and still playing in the T5-T3 range in solo queue, I'd HIGHLY advise staying away from the faction play tab. In fact I'd HIGHLY advise staying away from group queue as well.

Once you go anywhere outside of solo queue (aka: quick play), you're committing yourself to the team element of the game. Communication, strategies, focus fire, etc. all matter now, and if you have relatively little experience playing as a team vs. just shooting things, you're going to get rolled almost every time.

[Crenue]

Don't play CW until you get a unit and do 12 man drops together.

There is too many good units playing, and then there is a lot of units that just cheat. Its one of the sucky parts of CW.

[Chrome Magnus]

While not necessarily ideal playing solo in faction warfare is fine if you pay attention to your team and maybe even try to help, once more accustomed, out. I only drop solo and do very well, often beating small groups and occasionally large ones. I might behoove you to hold off on faction warfare until you have 4 unlocked mechs or at least be most of the way there.

That or look for groups to drop with. There seem to be some pretty friendly/good ones out there.

[Ghogiel]

You talk about your allies being scrubs, and that is likely the case in some instances, but what about your own performance in that game and others? What are your scores like against organised teams?

[Escef]

Kogrek, on 09 January 2016 - 08:04 PM, said:

My allies do not play mechs as intended, etc, blah blah blah.

Some mechs work as well or better in roles they were not "intended" for.

[The Lost Boy]

YOU are the only common denominator in the losses. When on a loosing streak, ask yourself "how could i have done better?"

Edited by Lemming of the BDA, 09 January 2016 - 09:36 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Ghogiel, on 09 January 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

You talk about your allies being scrubs, and that is likely the case in some instances, but what about your own performance in that game and others? What are your scores like against organised teams?

Lemming of the BDA, on 09 January 2016 - 09:27 PM, said:

YOU are the only common denominator in the losses.

I think both of you failed to comprehend what he wrote. He's backing up and considering that maybe he does suck, and then openly wondering why it would put the likes of him against a full unit drop.

[The Lost Boy]

Yeonne Greene, on 09 January 2016 - 09:29 PM, said:

I think both of you failed to comprehend what he wrote. He's backing up and considering that maybe he does suck, and then openly wondering why it would put the likes of him against a full unit drop.

Not at all. His decisions put him where he was. ALL WAYS LOOK TO YOURSELF FIRST.

[Novakaine]

Unlike any of FPS out there today MWO has a steep learning curve.
It's not a game you're gonna master in a few months.
Period.
Hell I've been here since closed beta and am still finding out stuff.
But like any other team based game, if there are any.
You need to do this.
Join a group and get some practice and training.
Simple as that, you don't suck you're just new.
Oh and don't be a Clanker, they smell bad and have really hairy feet

Edited by Novakaine, 09 January 2016 - 09:59 PM.

[Sabazial]

Lemming of the BDA, on 09 January 2016 - 09:41 PM, said:

Not at all. His decisions put him where he was. ALL WAYS LOOK TO YOURSELF FIRST.

Not every player reads a manual worth of info on the forums etc before starting MWO, some people just dive right on in there. Before chastising his gameplay choices just remember that he may not have played faction warfare before and decided to just check it out?

Judging from the context of his post i think he genuinely didn't realise what faction play was all about, hence his questions about playing against 12 man unit teams, cut the guy some slack and maybe try to give him some helpful info instead of acting like an e-thug and scaring him away instead.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Faction Warfare is basically the wild west, anything goes out there. You have 12 man premade pros going against a random group of 12 new players sometimes. The gamemode even warns you when you select it that its basically endgame hardmode. Its not easy to win out there if you are new and in a group of randoms.

In fact that puts you in the worst case scenario where you'd have an even shot again a group of 12 random new players, a decent shot against 12 new grouped players, a hard game against 12 random experienced players, and a nearly impossible to win match against a 12 man professional unit.

I'd suggest mastering 4 mechs before going into it honestly. Right now I'm using 3 Hellbringers and an Ebon Jaguar that are mastered and I'm helping out the team, usually getting top damage. Just give it some time and get yourself some leveled up mechs, finding a unit to drop with won't hurt, though I've mostly been pugging it.

[Ghogiel]

Yeonne Greene, on 09 January 2016 - 09:29 PM, said:

I think both of you failed to comprehend what he wrote. He's backing up and considering that maybe he does suck, and then openly wondering why it would put the likes of him against a full unit drop.

I didn't misinterpret him. You are correct, it's a thinly veiled premade boogeyman thread and half the replies won't help. In that context my reply is valid. People are speculating about this or that, putting players off CW and making it sound like it's some shark infested pit lmao (it's quite the reverse).

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Ghogiel, on 09 January 2016 - 10:14 PM, said:

I didn't misinterpret him. You are correct, it's a thinly veiled premade boogeyman thread and half the replies won't help. In that context my reply is valid. People are speculating about this or that, putting players off CW and making it sound like it's some shark infested pit lmao (it's quite the reverse).

Its like an ocean. There are sharks in it, but the chances of getting attacked by one are lower than not getting attacked by one. Least in this game you don't come back with any missing limbs.

[Y E O N N E]

Ghogiel, on 09 January 2016 - 10:14 PM, said:

I didn't misinterpret him. You are correct, it's a thinly veiled premade boogeyman thread and half the replies won't help. In that context my reply is valid. People are speculating about this or that, putting players off CW and making it sound like it's some shark infested pit lmao (it's quite the reverse).

His wondering is certainly misplaced, since CW has all those warnings, but I'd rather he just move to the Quick Play queue to get better with a chance to try his hand at CW again in the future, than quit the game altogether. More people playing, period, is good.

[Ghogiel]

Dakota1000, on 09 January 2016 - 10:17 PM, said:

Its like an ocean. There are sharks in it, but the chances of getting attacked by one are lower than not getting attacked by one. Least in this game you don't come back with any missing limbs.

CW is my kiddie pool compared to PSR matched games where I have to play against T1s every match.

[Mystere]

Ratchada, on 09 January 2016 - 08:25 PM, said:

Don't play CW until you get a unit and do 12 man drops together.

There is too many good units playing, and then there is a lot of units that just cheat. Its one of the sucky parts of CW.

You're going to have to provide proof of that, preferably to PGI.

Belphegore, on 09 January 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

Not every player reads a manual worth of info on the forums etc before starting MWO, some people just dive right on in there. Before chastising his gameplay choices just remember that he may not have played faction warfare before and decided to just check it out?

Judging from the context of his post i think he genuinely didn't realise what faction play was all about, hence his questions about playing against 12 man unit teams, cut the guy some slack and maybe try to give him some helpful info instead of acting like an e-thug and scaring him away instead.

Did he not read the half-page warning sign before dropping?

[Metus regem]

Lemming of the BDA, on 09 January 2016 - 09:27 PM, said:

YOU are the only common denominator in the losses. When on a loosing streak, ask yourself "how could i have done better?"

Sometimes it's not that simple, I've seen my PUG mates scatter like cockroaches when you turn on a light, leaving me in a 12 v 1, I'm decent but not Death Star achievement good...