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Mirror Mirror On The Wall...which Is The Fairest Unseen Of Them All?


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#1 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:14 AM

So we now know for sure, that we are at least getting the NGNG Alpha Lance of Heavy HG Unseen designs.
-Rifleman, the 60 ton ancestor to the Jagermech, which may win the hitbox lottery of the two
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-Archer a 70 ton LRM support mech, one of the oldest, most reliable and toughest mechs in the IS.
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-Warhammer. Long considered the ultimate Heavy Mech. Versatile and deadly.
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-Marauder. Once considered the pinnacle of mech development and the forebear of the Timberwolf. 75 tons of pure insectile menace.
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Which do you think is the best translation from original source art, to modern MWO concept? Why?

Nope, not concerned with who is or is not the best "meta mech", this is about pure, vain, eye candy.

For me, I rather like the Rifleman, but the lasers in the arms throw me a bit. The Warhammer is my favorite mech of all time in Battletech. But I got to admit, the elbows down on the arms are a little...off. The Marauder? Where do I start? It' looks like Shimmering Sword's concept and a King Crab had a baby. mind you, it could have been salvaged..
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......but nope, we got Humpty Dumpty made into a battlemech.

For me? It's all about that Archer. One of Alex's best translations in a long time. I might have preferred beefier fists (alex has a thing for small hands and feet, usually) but it's a minor beef. Maybe detracts half a point. So it only gets 9.5 out of 10 for catching that Unseen feeling.


Howzabout you?

#2 VanguardMk1

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:24 AM

Marauder had a nice looking design but it's not really my style. My favorite is the Warhammer and I find the Archer really ugly myself.

I was hoping for the Phoenix Hawk next :(

Edited by VanguardMk1, 08 December 2015 - 12:25 AM.


#3 William Mountbank

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:32 AM

Yeah, I'd go with the Archer too, like Bish.

The Marauder deviated too far from the original insectile form, and it's too much like a 'MWO Mech' if that makes sense. It was always my favourite mech, but the MWO version has too little leg and too much body, plus the arms are derpy.

Still, I'm happy we get any of them at all.

#4 El Bandito

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:37 AM

I like Archer. I vote Archer.

#5 Johnny Z

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:43 AM

Marauder then Phoenix Hawk then a slightly thinner Wolverine. The Sting or Wasp may be totally awesome to. Some of those egg mechs are cool to just because they are different.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:05 AM

Archer is certainly the closest to the original version. Borderline too close, only the waist area looks really different. The top profile is very close and has the same distinctive look.

#7 Lily from animove

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:44 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 08 December 2015 - 12:14 AM, said:


-Archer a 70 ton LRM support mech, one of the oldest, most reliable and toughest mechs in the IS.
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Do those bays open further or are these lrm's going to blast them away.

depending on what happens to the NVA rescale I may buy a marauder, because its the only so far with chickenlegs and arms.

#8 Scanz

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:51 AM

Love archer :)

#9 Kaeb Odellas

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 02:11 AM

I'd like the Archer more if its cockpit was higher. I know I know, original design and all that.

I vote Rifleman. It looks cool.

#10 TELEFORCE

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 02:56 AM

I really like the way the Archer looks. I hope it keeps those missile doors in-game, unlike the Centurion and Vindicator.

I do like how close to the original the Archer looks. Easily the best-looking of the "Classic" releases.

Edited by TELEFORCE, 08 December 2015 - 02:57 AM.


#11 Ace Selin

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 03:12 AM

Rifleman looks good except that Garish pink camo on the Hero.
Archer looks superb, wish there was a version with ACs in the torsos because i love me some dakka.

#12 Alistair Winter

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:01 AM

Humanoid mech always look deceptively good in the artwork when they're standing upright with their arms hanging down. I've been fooled before. Then we see them in game and... BOOM! Cornholio arms and pooping stance.

I wish all mechs with elbow joints could let their arms hang down for a tiny speed boost or hill climb boost or something. And then extend their arms for sniping over hills too.

Still, I'd have to say:
Archer > Marauder > Rifleman > Warhammer

#13 Wintersdark

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:29 AM

Not to say which is closest, but I love the rifleman and warhammer most of all. I actually swoon for those bitchin elbows!

The marauder... I like it, but I don't love it. Dunno what I'd like to see different, but it just doesn't really work for me. I do like the predatory look it has, though.

The archer. I didn't really know anything about the archer before this, its a black box for me. It's got a cool tough, beefy look, but I'm concerned as Alister Winter says above it'll look ridiculous once its arms are all up and its in its pooping stance. Dunno.

But I'm really waiting for the Phoenix Hawk. That's got my name all over it.



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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:31 AM

The Marauder is probably the best re-design (modern interpretation) of the group, and my favorite unseen re-imagined...

The original is just...yuk...
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The Rifleman is another good interpretation (runner up).
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As for closest to source, that is probably the Archer with the Warhammer close. Rifleman looks visually more intertesting while the Warhammer looks a bit more plain and generic IMO.

I'll say overall I'd rank...
Marauder>Archer>Rifleman>Warhammer

P.S. I am biased to chicken-walker style mechs (non-humanoid) so that probably played a part a bit in my ranking :)

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:46 AM

I like the Warhammer best.

#16 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:49 AM

The answer is always the Scorpion.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:54 AM

Archer

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#18 Notorious Meerkat

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:58 AM

Archer <3

#19 Ronan

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 05:45 AM

For me its a tie between Archer and Warhammer. I like the Archer overall. Its a good design/look. I like the Warhammer better, but... Its the lower arms... just something that doesn't jive for me. Whammy would be #1 for me if not for the lower arms/elbows. So a tie for first.

#20 zagibu

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 06:07 AM

Archer is probably closest to the original, but I like the Rifleman redesign best. It's basically a modern take on the original that still accounts for MWO's environment (no manga-size gun barrels, confusion with Jagermech averted).

But really, I think they are all really well done. The Marauder obviously doesn't look very much like the original, but hey, the original does not fit with MWO's style at all.





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