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#81 Khan Warlock Kell

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:37 AM

Is there any kind of consenus on what the best graphics card id for around the £160 pound mark. ?

#82 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:07 AM

View PostZakius, on 13 July 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

Is there any kind of consenus on what the best graphics card id for around the £160 pound mark. ?


You are looking at around the GTX 560 TI mark, it comes in 2 flavours 384 cores (£159) or 448 (£189) i would highly suggest if you can going for the 448 version it performs alot better and can overclock (done right) to around the GTX 580 performance mark.
http://www.dabs.com/...TC4.html?src=15

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:26 AM

View PostZakius, on 13 July 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

Is there any kind of consenus on what the best graphics card id for around the £160 pound mark. ?


You shoud also be able to find Radeons 6950 2gb, I have an his iceq x version and I am perfectly happy with that.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:28 AM

View PostDV McKenna, on 13 July 2012 - 08:07 AM, said:


You are looking at around the GTX 560 TI mark, it comes in 2 flavours 384 cores (£159) or 448 (£189) i would highly suggest if you can going for the 448 version it performs alot better and can overclock (done right) to around the GTX 580 performance mark.
http://www.dabs.com/...TC4.html?src=15

The Radeon HD 6950 is faster though. At least vs the regular 560ti, not the 448 core. It's just about exactly as fast as that, but uses less electricity. And is £155
http://www.amazon.co...42109470&sr=1-7

And the Geforce GTX 570 is somewhat faster than that 560ti 448, this is slightly cheaper than what DV posted;
http://www.amazon.co...2196817&sr=1-30

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 13 July 2012 - 08:29 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:33 AM

Our we seriously arguing five pages about this. It does not matter. Both companies higher end chips will easily play this game. The GPU is so much more important but even then come on all recent mid range cards will do the job completely. I have an AMD 965 and a I5 Sandy Bridge. They both do well and play anything that I throw at them. Is the I5 faster sure...do I notice nope. So you say but what about down the road. Anyone willing to argue this point is also the person that is most likely to upgrade every 2-4 years anyhow. This makes upgrade a totally pointless issue as they will be getting a new computer anyhow. For the none computer fanatics they don't care as long as it works.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:54 AM

Actually we were straying towards gpus now :)

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:45 AM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 13 July 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

The Radeon HD 6950 is faster though. At least vs the regular 560ti, not the 448 core. It's just about exactly as fast as that, but uses less electricity. And is £155
http://www.amazon.co...42109470&sr=1-7

And the Geforce GTX 570 is somewhat faster than that 560ti 448, this is slightly cheaper than what DV posted;
http://www.amazon.co...2196817&sr=1-30


6950 is a great pick within budget, well thought of.

It's not quite as good as the 448 in crysis 2 tho at standard clocks, both cards overclock very well however.

http://www.guru3d.co...-core-review/16

(not allowed to use png files here it seems)

From my understanding the 570 does not overclock as well, but i cant confirm that.

Edited by DV McKenna, 13 July 2012 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:49 AM

View PostDV McKenna, on 13 July 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:


6950 is a great pick within budget, well thought of.

It's not quite as good as the 448 in crysis 2 tho at standard clocks, both cards overclock very well however.

http://www.guru3d.co...-core-review/16

(not allowed to use png files here it seems)

From my understanding the 570 does not overclock as well, but i cant confirm that.

The 560ti 448 is a 570 with cores removed... so it should overclock better technically than a lower bin, or so I would think.

#89 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:51 AM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 13 July 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

The 560ti 448 is a 570 with cores removed... so it should overclock better technically than a lower bin, or so I would think.



The 448 can hit 580 speeds, i have not seen reports of the 570 doing the same but yes one would think given the 448 is a failed 570 essentially it would.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:56 AM

View PostDymitry, on 13 July 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Actually we were straying towards gpus now :D


Well then that is something to argue about! :D.

Just so long as it is EGA compatible so I can play Crescent Hawks Inception. I hear it needs a smoking 16 bits of on board memory.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:57 AM

View PostBigJim, on 11 July 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

To be fair, I've flitted all my life between manufacturers and never had an issue with any card, other than when games get too demanding for my card to keep up.

3dfx Voodoo 2 pci - Great.
GeForce 5200 pci - Great.
Radeon X700 agp - Great.
Radeon x1950xt pcie - Great.
Geforce gts250 pcie - Great.

It's time for another ati/amd card this time around & I expect to have no issues with the 7870 coming on Friday.
I've got 3 or 4 older (fanless) gfx cards kicking around in my boxes of old computer gear & pound to a penny if I chucked them into a box tomorrow they'd work just fine.

*EDIT* can't spell :D


3dfx voodoo 2 is what I played mechwarrior 2 mercenaries on, and 3dfx voodoo 2 is what I'll play mechwarrior online on!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

View PostDV McKenna, on 13 July 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:



The 448 can hit 580 speeds, i have not seen reports of the 570 doing the same but yes one would think given the 448 is a failed 570 essentially it would.


Hitting stock speeds with an OC'd card isn't much to be shocked about. Back in the 480 days we were unlocking 465 into 470's and then oc'ing the **** out of them. Of course, you can also OC the snot out of a 480.

#93 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:40 PM

View PostsilentD11, on 13 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:


Hitting stock speeds with an OC'd card isn't much to be shocked about. Back in the 480 days we were unlocking 465 into 470's and then oc'ing the **** out of them. Of course, you can also OC the snot out of a 480.


Turning a card that costs $269 too match the speed of a card that costs $429 is not shocking, but pretty good value.





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