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[zagibu]

Anyone ready for this?

[MeiSooHaityu]

At least the clanners were smart enough not to put 6 of them all in one torso (even if it does look cooler ).

Speaking of cool, this thing is going to be hot like a Nova unless it runs mostly ERSLasers with maybe 1 or 2 ERLLasers depending on what fits. I'm not too worried because of the heat. We will see once they hit the battlefield I suppose.

[zagibu]

I was thinking large CXL engine + 8 CSPL.

[adamts01]

I can almost see the 8 flamer trolls now.....

[Antares102]

6 ERML and 27 DHS .. I wouldnt call this very hot.
You can get 3 alphas out of this and the cooling rate will be hilarious.

Edited by Antares102, 14 December 2015 - 07:02 AM.

[Rhaythe]

As close as those mounts are to the cockpit, alpha striking with that build is going to blind the pilot. I foresee a lot of team damage upcoming very soon.

[Widowmaker1981]

Probably move my favourite EBJ build onto this, 2xLPL 6xSPL. Decent range poke, obscene short range alpha, great brawl sustainability (just dont fire the LPLs in a brawl).

[MeiSooHaityu]

zagibu, on 14 December 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:

I was thinking large CXL engine + 8 CSPL.

You can try it. I'll say this though, an Artic Cheetah can pull off 6 SPLasers because it is fast and can hit and fade. Your Hunchback will only be able to do 90~95kph with the max 275 engine. Even with the clan energy range advantage, you will be a bit hot for sustained fire and a bit slow for hit and fade.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still try it if you want. It might be OK. Just don't be surprised if it doesn't work as well as you might think.

[Jun Watarase]

You can already do 6x ER ML + lots of DHS with the hellbringer. Its got an unimpressive alpha and very low DPS though....

[Alistair Winter]

The 8CERML Nova is already a pretty decent mid-range sniper, in my book. Its biggest problem is the Nova is an oversized medium with low-slung gorilla arms, which are easy as hell to shoot off. Here you have a mech that:

• Isn't oversized (slightly smaller than IS Hunchback)
  
• Has the best hardpoint location in the game
  
• Can't be disarmed without killing it
  
• Can easily strip armour from arms to fit more heat sinks
  
• Is an infinitely better hill-humper, due to a tiny sniping profile

Yep, it's gonna be fun times on the forum pretty soon.

[Mcgral18]

Jun Watarase, on 14 December 2015 - 04:57 AM, said:

You can already do 6x ER ML + lots of DHS with the hellbringer. Its got an unimpressive alpha and very low DPS though....

This 50 tonner can do most Loki builds, swapping the Jesus Box for JJs.

It can do Ballistics better, however.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 14 December 2015 - 04:59 AM, said:

The 8CERML Nova is already a pretty decent mid-range sniper, in my book. Its biggest problem is the Nova is an oversized medium with low-slung gorilla arms, which are easy as hell to shoot off. Here you have a mech that:

• Isn't oversized (slightly smaller than IS Hunchback)
  
• Has the best hardpoint location in the game
  
• Can't be disarmed without killing it
  
• Can easily strip armour from arms to fit more heat sinks
  
• Is an infinitely better hill-humper, due to a tiny sniping profile

Yep, it's gonna be fun times on the forum pretty soon.

That is a good point :/

[Alistair Winter]

The irony, of course, is that the Hunchback IIC in lore was considered pretty much a death sentence for anyone piloting it.

In MWO, it'll be one of the most popular mechs in the game when it arrives

[zagibu]

MeiSooHaityu, on 14 December 2015 - 04:57 AM, said:

Your Hunchback will only be able to do 90~95kph with the max 275 engine.

Yeah, might be too slow for SPL. Still, it got exceptional hardpoint locations, and with CXL engine, it will be able to tank a lot of damage while still mounting the firepower of an IS heavy. Maybe 2 larges and 6 smalls or 6 meds, two of which in the CT. Anyway, I think we'll see this mech a lot in the coming days.

[Rhaythe]

Alistair Winter, on 14 December 2015 - 05:04 AM, said:

The irony, of course, is that the Hunchback IIC in lore was considered pretty much a death sentence for anyone piloting it.

In MWO, it'll be one of the most popular mechs in the game when it arrives

Lore? In my Mechwarrior Online? It's less likely than you think.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 14 December 2015 - 05:04 AM, said:

The irony, of course, is that the Hunchback IIC in lore was considered pretty much a death sentence for anyone piloting it.

In MWO, it'll be one of the most popular mechs in the game when it arrives

Although in lore, it's running crazy setups like 2 ultra 20's. With hardly any ammo.

It's like... Is the pilot old, mentally unraveling, consistently underperforming, etc??? Throw them into a Hunchback IIC. With 2 ultra 20's they SHOULD be able to do a ton of damage with the couple shots they have before running out of ammo and getting blown to bits. All a pilot needs to do is aim and pull a trigger.

I wouldnt doubt if most Hunchback IIC ejector systems were "malfunctioning". I assume it was a great way to get a rid of the less desirables. Might as you well have them go out in glory I suppose and do damage while it happens *shrug*.

Now if clanners actually gave 2 craps about IIC mechs instead of being used with/by (garrison, free births, bondsman, aging, etc...), then I'm sure they could be made pretty dangerous like they will in MWO.

[MeiSooHaityu]

zagibu, on 14 December 2015 - 05:13 AM, said:

Yeah, might be too slow for SPL. Still, it got exceptional hardpoint locations, and with CXL engine, it will be able to tank a lot of damage while still mounting the firepower of an IS heavy. Maybe 2 larges and 6 smalls or 6 meds, two of which in the CT. Anyway, I think we'll see this mech a lot in the coming days.

I think Alistair said it best. It will be quite the 6 ERMLaser hill humping sniper.

I agree, we will see a lot of them.

[Big Tin Man]

So how long until people realize that the hunchie IIC is the clan's dual gauss jagermech? With JJ's. And CXL. And ercml's in the CT just in case.

Hail to our new meta overlord.

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 14 December 2015 - 04:36 AM, said:

At least the clanners were smart enough not to put 6 of them all in one torso (even if it does look cooler ).

Speaking of cool, this thing is going to be hot like a Nova unless it runs mostly ERSLasers with maybe 1 or 2 ERLLasers depending on what fits. I'm not too worried because of the heat. We will see once they hit the battlefield I suppose.

yeah, but way better hardpoint placement, and probably better hitboxes.

toss 2x ERPPC on that, some JJs, etc? Premiere poptart in the game.

Big Tin Man, on 14 December 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:

So how long until people realize that the hunchie IIC is the clan's dual gauss jagermech? With JJ's. And CXL. And ercml's in the CT just in case.

Hail to our new meta overlord.

because Dual Gauss leaves little room for anything else...like even ammo....or a decent sized engine? And because with crap DPS and low speed... every Light will eat you for breakfast?

It might see limited use in CW.... but 3x ERLL will probably be better.

[Bishop Steiner]

MeiSooHaityu, on 14 December 2015 - 05:14 AM, said:

Although in lore, it's running crazy setups like 2 ultra 20's. With hardly any ammo.

It's like... Is the pilot old, mentally unraveling, consistently underperforming, etc??? Throw them into a Hunchback IIC. With 2 ultra 20's they SHOULD be able to do a ton of damage with the couple shots they have before running out of ammo and getting blown to bits. All a pilot needs to do is aim and pull a trigger.

I wouldnt doubt if most Hunchback IIC ejector systems were "malfunctioning". I assume it was a great way to get a rid of the less desirables. Might as you well have them go out in glory I suppose and do damage while it happens *shrug*.

Now if clanners actually gave 2 craps about IIC mechs instead of being used with/by (garrison, free births, bondsman, aging, etc...), then I'm sure they could be made pretty dangerous like they will in MWO.

Well, if IICs were locked like they were in Lore (not because of space magic, but because the Powers that Be would not waste resources on them), we wouldn't have this talk.