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[Mcgral18]

Euklides, on 16 December 2015 - 06:13 PM, said:

You are performing a great cause, for the collective epicness.

Looking at the speed and rounds, that is a xl205 engine untweeked or a xl220 tweeked with 5.5t ammo? Either way why not get the quicker engine for no cost at all? C-bill strain? and perhaps a laser instead of 3 shots worth of 0.5tons (stupid reduction of uneven ammocounts, why not give the lbx20 8 shots to make it easy, instead of 7... Questions that will never be answered...) ? ^^

The one that I've been drooling over is with a xl225 with 5ton ammo and 2 smalls for backup

It was a 225, no laser, not sure if it had a JJ or not.

[Bishop Steiner]

Just got back in my Founder's 4G. Much as I like the extra speed and JJs, as soon as I got back in my baby, it was like clubbing baby seals.

Biggest thing... just because the HBK-IIC is similar to the IS HBK, it really does NOT fil the same roles, at all. It's much more a medium range engagement mech, and NOT, NOT, NOT a Brawler. Even with UAC20, I find I have to really hug the periphery and be opportunistic as heck to get the kind of results I take for granted in my 4G.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I do find it mildly ironic that the Clan mech while physically having the same weight and armor then getting more speed and double the firepower is actually weaker than the Inner Sphere ones which got quirks to become tanking gods while at the same time getting quirks to nearly double their firepower in some cases.

[Bishop Steiner]

did get two headshot kills today with my dual ERPPC HBK-IIC...been forever since I got one of those (don't usually go for them, usually just try for torsos) so that was fun (bet I surprised that lil punk lightsaber raven with that too....cored to pieces, him killing my remaining teammates right and left.... and dude paused... so I obliged him with Lighting to the Brain. Good times).

Also finally broke 700 damage with one (yay!) but still have not gotten more than 3 kills.

Ah well. It's fun.

[NeoCodex]

Played 1 game with the origin and 1 with the energy variant. I generally don't like Clan ballistics but this seemed fun and almost viable. And on the energy variant I just put 4 ERL on there. The hardpoints are lol. This is something I did not expect and will probably replace the 4ERL EBJ, can also save tonnage in CW for the same role. It's a good mech. Clan Endo and FF is so good. So much tonnage and slots to work with.

Did anyone find a use for the missile variant? I have like no clue what to do with that one.

P.S.: god, the laser vommit even has jump jets, this is amazing! Mom bring the camera!

Edited by NeoCodex, 16 December 2015 - 11:50 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

NeoCodex, on 16 December 2015 - 11:45 PM, said:

Played 1 game with the origin and 1 with the energy variant. I generally don't like Clan ballistics but this seemed fun and almost viable. And on the energy variant I just put 4 ERL on there. The hardpoints are lol. This is something I did not expect and will probably replace the 4ERL EBJ, can also save tonnage in CW for the same role. It's a good mech.

Did anyone find a use for the missile variant? I have like no clue what to do with that one.

P.S.: god, the laser vommit even has jump jets, this is amazing! Mom bring the camera!

I'm running a 275XL, 4JJ, 4xLRM5 and 2xERLL on my Rocketeer model. Been working pretty nice. JJs allow me to clear a lot of cover for missiles, instead of shooting walls.

also

IMO, Jade Falcon faction skin looks positively SICK on HBK-IIC.

[NeoCodex]

I'm not a fan of green but this looks nice indeed.

[Bishop Steiner]

NeoCodex, on 16 December 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

I'm not a fan of green but this looks nice indeed.

It's actually Steiner Purple Rasalhague Blue... but as you turn it has the prismatic effect, which I think is pretty sweet. I also like how the hotrod black tertiary channel turned to burnished gold. Do wish the white reflected a little of the spectrum, but can't have everything, right?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 17 December 2015 - 12:14 AM.

[NeoCodex]

Steiner colors on a Clan mech? Such heresy! I had to check the Resistance preorder page and there was indeed a Steiner purple color there. I really like this combination actually.

On a side note shading and textures look quite good on this one, I don't know why but everything looks more crisp and the colors look shinier too than on the regular HBK.

[Duke Nedo]

The HBK-IIC-A is seriously sick good. 95 kph, high mounts, 48 alpha @ 370m optimal, jumpjets, TC1 and 36% heat efficiency in smurfy. The others I've built a more nichy, but still very good.

[Bishop Steiner]

NeoCodex, on 17 December 2015 - 12:04 AM, said:

Steiner colors on a Clan mech? Such heresy! I had to check the Resistance preorder page and there was indeed a Steiner purple color there. I really like this combination actually.

On a side note shading and textures look quite good on this one, I don't know why but everything looks more crisp and the colors look shinier too than on the regular HBK.

side note..I swapped to Rasalhague Blue before saving, actually... had been playing with Steiner Purple for a while before. Oops!

And I'm a Steiner (and not the Goliath Scorpion Bloodname), driving a Clan Medium Mech..so I think I got the heresy part covered!

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 17 December 2015 - 12:15 AM.

[NeoCodex]

Duke Nedo, on 17 December 2015 - 12:13 AM, said:

The HBK-IIC-A is seriously sick good. 95 kph, high mounts, 48 alpha @ 370m optimal, jumpjets, TC1 and 36% heat efficiency in smurfy. The others I've built a more nichy, but still very good.

Yes, IIC-A is sick. It's just better to me than the 4ERL EBJ in more than one way (and EBJ was really good as long range vommit). Didn't even start thinking about other builds yet but at first glance that seemed the build to go for.

Edited by NeoCodex, 17 December 2015 - 12:18 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

NeoCodex, on 17 December 2015 - 12:18 AM, said:

Yes, IIC-A is sick. It's just better to me than the 4ERL EBJ in more than one way (and EBJ was really good as long range vommit). Didn't even start thinking about other builds yet but at first glance that seemed the build to go for.

love love love to ppc with it. ERLLs are the better choice, but I 1) love PPC Barrels and 2) PPCs have always been my favorite Battletech gun, SO..... gotta use em!

[NeoCodex]

I got a bit spoiled with the PPC buffs on the Warhawk, so I'm not sure I'm willing to try these on the Hunchback. I do hope it works out for you tough. Also just read in another thread they're getting heat reduction but that's probably next year. I know that Warhawk is the iconic PPC boat and deserves those quirks, but still... It wouldn't kill to give them 10% more velocity across the board, I'd take that over heat buff any part of the day.

[Not A Real RAbbi]

HBK-II-C isn't blowing my skirt up yet.

Missile variant is neat. 4x cSRM-6 is fun up-close. Also, 2x cSRM6, 2x cLRM15 can rake in the damage without having to resort to cowardly boating. (Both with cSPLs or cERMLs or cMPLs, of course, because CT HARD POINTS ROCK MY WURLD.)

Laser one? Gonna be silly. Can rock the 3x cLPL without getting ridiculous with the heat. Or someone else's suggestion of 2x cLPL, 6x cERSL. Just STUPID output.

But the ballistic one? Meh. Not enough weight to do much. Was thinking of a single Gauss, some ERMLs, and maybe fill out the B spots with MGs just for giggles.

Look, you don't buy a HBK with JJs and NOT take the JJs, right? RIGHT?!

Oh, and so far I'm favoring the 245XL. 1.5 tons lighter than the 250, minus the ton for another heat sink, still saves a half ton. The 200 is just TOO slow. NO Clan mech should have to move that slowly..

[NeoCodex]

Why not just play the double UAC10 on the ballistic as it probably should be played? It's actually one of the main reasons I got it because I wanted to try it out lol. And i don't think it's that bad (didn't even expect it will make the tonnage). I played one game with it. Yeah we lost, but I don't think it was the mech's fault?

[Bishop Steiner]

NeoCodex, on 17 December 2015 - 12:27 AM, said:

I got a bit spoiled with the PPC buffs on the Warhawk, so I'm not sure I'm willing to try these on the Hunchback. I do hope it works out for you tough. Also just read in another thread they're getting heat reduction but that's probably next year. I know that Warhawk is the iconic PPC boat and deserves those quirks, but still... It wouldn't kill to give them 10% more velocity across the board, I'd take that over heat buff any part of the day.

well, they did buff velocity on them a few months back. I wouldn't say no to more... or to lower heat.... but I certainly don't want a return of the ppc meta, either.

TheRAbbi, on 17 December 2015 - 12:27 AM, said:

HBK-II-C isn't blowing my skirt up yet.

Missile variant is neat. 4x cSRM-6 is fun up-close. Also, 2x cSRM6, 2x cLRM15 can rake in the damage without having to resort to cowardly boating. (Both with cSPLs or cERMLs or cMPLs, of course, because CT HARD POINTS ROCK MY WURLD.)

Laser one? Gonna be silly. Can rock the 3x cLPL without getting ridiculous with the heat. Or someone else's suggestion of 2x cLPL, 6x cERSL. Just STUPID output.

But the ballistic one? Meh. Not enough weight to do much. Was thinking of a single Gauss, some ERMLs, and maybe fill out the B spots with MGs just for giggles.

Look, you don't buy a HBK with JJs and NOT take the JJs, right? RIGHT?!

Oh, and so far I'm favoring the 245XL. 1.5 tons lighter than the 250, minus the ton for another heat sink, still saves a half ton. The 200 is just TOO slow. NO Clan mech should have to move that slowly..

eh, the reason I want the C is 270xl, 4 JJs, UAC20 with 5.5 tons ammo, 4xERSL and 14 DHS.

[Duke Nedo]

NeoCodex, on 17 December 2015 - 12:18 AM, said:

Yes, IIC-A is sick. It's just better to me than the 4ERL EBJ in more than one way (and EBJ was really good as long range vommit). Didn't even start thinking about other builds yet but at first glance that seemed the build to go for.

Aye, running 6x cMPLs on mine, that's my all time favourite clan weapon. I struggle with too long beam durations so I end up putting cMPLs on everything...

[NeoCodex]

Just a matter of playstyle, sure those ERL burn like a long monday and 6MPL is more powerful in many ways but it's just that I personally enjoy the long range hillpoke and reposition style you can do so smoothly and it's just a pleasure to play it. Shoot them when they can't shoot back

Or to put it more crudely: I like big guns mounted on top of shoulders and abusing this advantage as much as possible. It only makes sense.

Edited by NeoCodex, 17 December 2015 - 03:35 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

also, not sure which Modeler(s) pulled the job on the HBK-IIC and HGN-IIC basic models, but great job. Some folks are not enamored with some of the weapon pod add ons, but I think the actual in game models of BOTH actually look batter than Alex's artwork for them.

People here are quick to curse the modelers... but never hear anyone say anything when they do a bang up job.