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[Alex Warden]

i take it those should be clan mechs, right? if that´s the case,how will PGI handle them? i mean it´s basically the IS mech system (custom engine and everything else but fixed hard points) with clan weapons... on paper, that looks pretty hardcore to me...

i also put up the suggestion that the rest of the tier 2 IS weapons should be implemented (pulse/ er lasers (L, M)/ ultra/ lbx acs (2, 10, 20)/ ssrms (2, 6) and maybe mrm) , since that was the case some time after tukayyid, if i remember right... also: IS omnis?

Edited by Alex Warden, 17 December 2015 - 05:22 AM.

[Skoll]

Just so you know, not every Clan mech is an OmniMech, just the ones PGI put in so far.

IICs are basically clan upgrades of pre-existing IS tech and there is still a lot more they can use besides the underwhelming, made to die Hunchback and others. The Jenner is probably the only IIC worth it's salt right now

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/IIC

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IIC ("two-C", for "second generation, Clan technology") is an Inner Sphere designation^[1] for various items of Clan equipment that evolved out of certain classic designs or items, built with superior Clan technology. Originally coined for certain BattleMech designs,^[1] IIC was later also used for superior (Clan-level) technology rebuilds of aerospace fighters, vehicles, and other equipment that evolved out of an earlier namesake in a similar fashion, and is now used for a broad range of advanced items.
The IIC designation originated with the Inner Sphere and is not a Clan term,^[1] even though it describes their technology as opposed to Inner Sphere technology. As such, the Clans themselves did not use the IIC description initially, referring to IIC units and items by their traditional Star League-era name (without the "IIC" appendix) instead.^[2] Later on, around the Jihad era past the year 3067, the Clans seem to use it as well^[3] to differentiate IIC designs from their classic ancestors which are sometimes still in use in the Inner Sphere. Among the BattleTech fan base, "IIC" is also (often jokingly) used very broadly for the concepts of superiority or improvement; it is unclear if the designation is in similarly casual use within the BattleTech universe.
Although superior to Inner Sphere technology, IIC 'Mechs and fighters do not make use of Omni technology and were thus already considered obsolete by the Clans by the time of the Clan Invasion. They were absent from frontline formations, but were used in second-line and garrison units.
Many IIC designs have altered the parent design's mass and some actually bear little resemblance to the earlier design or item of the same name.

[Digital Pseudonym]

fragile . . .

[Alex Warden]

skoll i know all that...

Digital Pseudonym, on 17 December 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

fragile . . .

yea i was just reading the other thread about them... PGI way to balance things i guess

[Skoll]

I operate under the assumption everyone is an idiot.

[Alex Warden]

well, at least you won´t be disappointed that way

[DjPush]

I have been having fun in the Highlander IIC. It was a real ***** at first. Suddenly, I found some builds I like. Developed a play style for them, now I average 5-600 a match.

80 point alphad with a 1.26 heat efficiency and max engine... Yaaazzzz ppllllzzzz!

Edited by DjPush, 17 December 2015 - 06:21 AM.

[Mister Blastman]

Digital Pseudonym, on 17 December 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

fragile . . .

They need to add some holes into the HBK armor so lasers, projectiles and PPCs go into a transient dimension like they do with other 'mechs.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Digital Pseudonym, on 17 December 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

fragile . . .

Yes and No.

People like saying it has no durability quirks (like many IS counterparts) and that makes them fragile. That is true, BUT they also run Clan XL engines that can survive a side torso loss (unlike their IS counterparts).

That combined with 2 crit space DHS instead of the IS 3 crit space, lighter weapons that hit harder and go farther, etc... and I don't feel too bad.

If some of this "fragile" woe is caused by bad hitboxes, I of course am not against fixing it. Still, if people want IS level durability quirks AND they run Clan XLs (along with it's other weapon and equipment advantages), I would have a hard time supporting those durability buffs.