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#1 Weeny Machine

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:02 AM

I had a look at the leaderboard and was a bit confused. Is it just me or are there a lot of new names and less of the notorious beasts from previous events?
Most names I haven't even seen in-game. Are these T4-5s who do seal clubbing or what is going on?

#2 cSand

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:05 AM

I would guess there are a few a-holes using Alts to club new players, so they can finally feel adequate atsomething in life

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:06 AM

View PostcSand, on 21 December 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

I would guess there are a few a-holes using Alts to club new players, so they can finally feel adequate atsomething in life

Yeah, I heard a dialogue about a person who is named after a certain city in the old Ultima series...which hinted at something like that.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:21 AM

I know that, personally speaking, I was too busy in RL to touch the game and won't actually be online again until early January. I imagine that I'm not the only person in this situation either.

#5 Grimlox

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:28 AM

It's not like this was open to mechs that everyone has the ability to own in game. My guess is that many of the toptier pilots didn't buy the special variant with real money needed for a lot of these leaderboard categories. That just opens the door to others.

If the leaderboard was for cbill mechs I suspect things would look quite different.

View PostcSand, on 21 December 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

I would guess there are a few a-holes using Alts to club new players, so they can finally feel adequate atsomething in life


Seems pretty desperate to make an alt account and spend real $$ on it just for this. Especially when the alt account name doesn't even give their primary account persona any of the glory. Not ruling out that some are willing to stoop to this though.

Edited by Grimlox, 21 December 2015 - 11:28 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:40 AM

View PostGrimlox, on 21 December 2015 - 11:28 AM, said:

It's not like this was open to mechs that everyone has the ability to own in game. My guess is that many of the toptier pilots didn't buy the special variant with real money needed for a lot of these leaderboard categories. That just opens the door to others.

If the leaderboard was for cbill mechs I suspect things would look quite different.



Seems pretty desperate to make an alt account and spend real $$ on it just for this. Especially when the alt account name doesn't even give their primary account persona any of the glory. Not ruling out that some are willing to stoop to this though.


heh, almost certainly there are some who would.

But yea, probably not much. Most of these mechs are for the Steam packs so I would think mostly new players.

The IIC and Marauder boards have some of the more usual names in them.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:43 AM

I'd like to point out that this particular leaderboard event only allows for the brand new shiny mechs which a lot of people don't own. I own ZERO mechs that could participate in this leaderboard event, plus I think people get burnt out on leaderboards frequently. It's not a lot of fun to grind hundreds of matches over a weekend for a $10 gift card to make your e-peen feel bigger. Having placed top 5 in multiple leaderboards, I don't plan on participating in one ever again.

Edited by pwnface, 21 December 2015 - 11:43 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:44 AM

View Postpwnface, on 21 December 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

It's not a lot of fun to grind hundreds of matches over a weekend for a $10 gift card to make your e-peen feel bigger.

amen

I did it once and got top 5 and at the end of the weekend after a huge marathon of grinding to get there, was like "what the hell am I doing?"

the initial placing was easy, getting up there in a minimal amount of matches. It's keeping that spot once everyone is neck and neck, plying so many matches for a handful of extra points. was even worse when you had to win the match as a condition, I had many huge scoring matches where the team lost and it was like "FML"

never again

Edited by cSand, 21 December 2015 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:45 AM

Not sure conceptually how having the MM on during a leaderboard event makes sense. I am not against the MM in general usage just don't really understand it for this event.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:54 AM

View PostcSand, on 21 December 2015 - 11:44 AM, said:

amen

I did it once and got top 5 and at the end of the weekend after a huge marathon of grinding to get there, was like "what the hell am I doing?"

never again


Yep, almost 2 years ago I was competing in the leaderboards for the "light mech chassis" and was neck to neck with PEEFsmash and Edmiester for the first two days. After playing computer games for probably close to 28 hours in a 2 day timespan, I decided to go outside and see the freaking sun instead of spending another 12-16 hours trying to win. I ended up placing 5th having only played 2 out of the 3 days. Honestly, when it comes down to the top 5 competitors for most of these leaderboards, it comes down to who is willing to spend more time to grind and who has RNGesus on their side.

#11 P H O X

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:58 AM

RNGesus is the point!

#12 Grimlox

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:03 PM

View Postpwnface, on 21 December 2015 - 11:54 AM, said:


Yep, almost 2 years ago I was competing in the leaderboards for the "light mech chassis" and was neck to neck with PEEFsmash and Edmiester for the first two days. After playing computer games for probably close to 28 hours in a 2 day timespan, I decided to go outside and see the freaking sun instead of spending another 12-16 hours trying to win. I ended up placing 5th having only played 2 out of the 3 days. Honestly, when it comes down to the top 5 competitors for most of these leaderboards, it comes down to who is willing to spend more time to grind and who has RNGesus on their side.


It would make a lot more sense to me if it just took the average score over all of the games played. Still bound to be RNG involved, but less so than taking the 10 best and certainly it would remove the need for huge amounts of grind.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:05 PM

View PostGrimlox, on 21 December 2015 - 12:03 PM, said:


It would make a lot more sense to me if it just took the average score over all of the games played. Still bound to be RNG involved, but less so than taking the 10 best and certainly it would remove the need for huge amounts of grind.


What if I drop into my first match and get 1300 damage and 7 kills? I'll just stop playing for the rest of the weekend because nobody is going to average that high.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:15 PM

View Postpwnface, on 21 December 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:


What if I drop into my first match and get 1300 damage and 7 kills? I'll just stop playing for the rest of the weekend because nobody is going to average that high.


I think you would still set a minimum such as 10 or 20 matches. Then just take the average. Basing it on one game would be silly.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:21 PM

I see Proton, Voltron, psichih0lic, Cico, Jman, Mcgral, Jay Z, Colonel ONeill, Tolson, Suspect, Better Call Saul, Gas Guzzler, Coburn, bear claw, Spr1ggan, Ghozzt, TwinkyOverlord, and others

All the normal people with too much time on their hands littering the top10 in all the IIC categories (the only ones that really matter for what you're talking about. Because no vet is going to buy the performance packs, and many are playing the more competitive IIC mechs over the Marauder)

Sure, there are others on there, but there are also many good solo players that have no reputation. Not to mention a few alts here and there.

Seems pretty normal to me.

Edited by Solahma, 21 December 2015 - 12:23 PM.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:23 PM

Ive got bad news for people who think they are noobs farming noobs. They will and/or already have went up the rank and will add to the people melting your face on a regular basis.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:35 PM

View Postpwnface, on 21 December 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

I'd like to point out that this particular leaderboard event only allows for the brand new shiny mechs which a lot of people don't own. I own ZERO mechs that could participate in this leaderboard event, plus I think people get burnt out on leaderboards frequently. It's not a lot of fun to grind hundreds of matches over a weekend for a $10 gift card to make your e-peen feel bigger. Having placed top 5 in multiple leaderboards, I don't plan on participating in one ever again.

I don't think this particular challenge has been all that bad because there are 28 different leaderboards. I went back and counted all my matches since last Thursday, and I'll be well below 100 even if I play a lot tonight.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:37 PM

View PostGrimlox, on 21 December 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:


I think you would still set a minimum such as 10 or 20 matches. Then just take the average. Basing it on one game would be silly.


What an amazing idea LOL.

In fact, why make it hard, just take the total score and not divide by the 10 matches to find the average.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:42 PM

View PostSolahma, on 21 December 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

and many are playing the more competitive IIC mechs over the Marauder)



You know, you said that the 2C mechs are more competitive...


But look at the point spread between the 1st and 50th player in each category. The Marauders, and people piloting them, are doing much better than the 2c mechs with higher scores.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:46 PM

View PostMadcap72, on 21 December 2015 - 12:42 PM, said:


You know, you said that the 2C mechs are more competitive...


But look at the point spread between the 1st and 50th player in each category. The Marauders, and people piloting them, are doing much better than the 2c mechs with higher scores.

They are more competitive period. Also, Marauders have been out for a while, people have them mastered and A LOT of people are still playing them. I'd guess there are more people in-general playing the Marauder meaning less point spread. However, there are a lot more competitive players grinding the iic's because it just came out. Two things are happening: 1) Players are grinding their iics 2) players are testing their viability and learning them because they could have a huge impact in competitive leagues once allowed to be used.

more people haven't even finished grinding their iic's meaning they are not performing as well with suboptimal mech skills.

Also, of all the names I mentioned, practically NONE of those players are piloting Marauders for this event.

Edited by Solahma, 21 December 2015 - 12:48 PM.






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