174 replies to this topic

[Russhuster]

@Nightshade
that will not happen as we all know IS will always be the quirkpampered half of the team the IS omni s will ofcourse get a lorry full of extra quirks for the quirks and extra bonus on top and no hardwiring IS can change everything

its naive to think PGI will even think of actually balancing IS

[LordNothing]

Grimm Peaper, on 22 December 2015 - 03:44 PM, said:

You'd still lack the quirks...

if i want quirks il install a clan targeting computer.

[Russhuster]

LOL

[Gas Guzzler]

Grimm Peaper, on 22 December 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

LOL, resorting to name calling already Bish? You must feel threatened.

You're assuming I'm referring to CW only. There is more than CW. For quickplay players, it doesn't matter which side they are technically on. Many have already said that IIC mechs are a taste of mix tech.

He didn't even call you a name. He just said your post sucked. (It did)

[LordNothing]

i want to see more iic mechs, i just dont want to see any more cut and paste modeling/texturing.

[Novakaine]

Well they are second line Clanker mechs you know.

Edited by Novakaine, 22 December 2015 - 03:55 PM.

[Baron Von Hunchback]

Alistair Winter, on 22 December 2015 - 02:59 PM, said:

MRW I'm watching the pro-Clan fanboys and the pro-IS fanboys yell to each other about balance, while I have a IS account and separate Clan account and think balance between factions is fine:

I have 2 accounts too-and I know which set of mechs performs better...and it ain't the clans. My Is HBKs decimate my clan ones. Should they?

[cSand]

Russhuster, on 22 December 2015 - 03:49 PM, said:

@Nightshade
that will not happen as we all know IS will always be the quirkpampered half of the team the IS omni s will ofcourse get a lorry full of extra quirks for the quirks and extra bonus on top and no hardwiring IS can change everything

its naive to think PGI will even think of actually balancing IS

lol

some people...

balance is good right now

IIC mechs, who knows, maybe they need a little love, maybe not. I am seeing people ripping sh*t up in them though, so I'm thinking any difficulties are more to do with a player's style, or having to learn change the way they play for a new chassis

Edited by cSand, 22 December 2015 - 04:03 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

The introduction of IIc mechs changed the meta and which mechs are Tier 1?!

Wow, they are powerful!

[Alistair Winter]

Baron Von Hunchback, on 22 December 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:

I have 2 accounts too-and I know which set of mechs performs better...and it ain't the clans. My Is HBKs decimate my clan ones. Should they?

A mysterious Hunchback player who joined 2 days ago? I've no idea what your mechs should or shouldn't do.

All I know is, when I'm playing my Clan mechs, I'm not getting decimated by any Hunchbacks. When I look at the scoreboards after each match, they're not dominated by Clan mechs. When I look at how Clan mechs are scoring after each match, they're doing just fine. And in CW, the Clans are doing just fine.

So... meh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited by Alistair Winter, 22 December 2015 - 04:05 PM.

[Russhuster]

a good and aware player can obtain a suitable ammount of damage even in a deprived design,.. that does say little about the design in itselfs abilitys

But youre right Balance is good - for IS

Ah and for your edit,...the snide remark about playing abilitys ist the most inovative Answer i ever heared when the Versa has no real arguments

But its quite simple just you wait and see how many play on clan side at Tuk 3
Maybe the mercs are payed well enough to play on clanside again

imagine there is invasion time and noone is coming

Edited by Russhuster, 22 December 2015 - 04:12 PM.

[Deathlike]

I like how this thread is bad.

It never ceases to amaze me.

[cSand]

Ted Wayz, on 22 December 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

The introduction of IIc mechs changed the meta and which mechs are Tier 1?!

Wow, they are powerful!

They changed the world, man

[Lightfoot]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 December 2015 - 02:57 PM, said:

Ummm... IICs are not IS mechs with Clan equipment so that the "IS can get their Clan on".

They are clan mechs, used by the Clan Factions (and will only be usable by clans in CW) based off old IS designs.

Only person their being "bad" would affect...is the Clans.

This is true. IIc's are Clan only and they do get shredded in seconds, players all know this now so the IIc's are free-kills. They make my Shadow Cat seem tough. The fragility is just a bit too much though, I won't be using them until they are fixed, except to master them. However, no more pre-orders for PGI. Now they have to prove their new stuff is worth buying because they seem to have become nerf-happy about anything Clan. It's so bad the IIc's don't even seem like battlemechs.

[Burktross]

Grimm Peaper, on 22 December 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

You...duck!

You only show how you'd never make it as a community rep for PGI.

Ad hominem 101, Lesson one:
Respond with insults, not rebuttals

[cSand]

Russhuster, on 22 December 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

a good and aware player can obtain a suitable ammount of damage even in a deprived design,.. that does say little about the design in itselfs abilitys

But youre right Balance is good - for IS

Ah and for your edit,...the snide remark about playing abilitys ist the most inovative Answer i ever heared when the Versa has no real arguments

But its quite simple just you wait and see how many play on clan side at Tuk 3
Maybe the mercs are payed well enough to play on clanside again

imagine there is invasion time and noone is coming

It wasn't a snide comment, it's true, they are new style mechs and you can't expect to play them like any previous ones. IIC mechs just came out, they have yet to be adjusted, and aren't any kind of indicator of overall clan/Is balance, since nothing yet exists like them on either side. People generally seem to find them too squishy so chances are they will get some extra structure or armor quirks, maybe not to the IS level but a small adjustment.

Can you imagine the backlash, if they released hugely OP mechs, even meaning to change them, at the same time as Steam just came out. This game has a nice reputation for not being P2W and that would destroy it in an instant. PGI went conservatively and honestly that was the best choice in this situation.

So overall balance between sides, which honestly is better than ever generally speaking (some chassis individually need some extra adjustments). You're gonna have to accept that soloing your way through 2 -3 IS heavies in a TBR, those days are over.

Clearly you are intent on playing the victim here though so good day to you sir

Edited by cSand, 22 December 2015 - 04:55 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alistair Winter, on 22 December 2015 - 04:04 PM, said:

All I know is, when I'm playing my Clan mechs, I'm not getting decimated by any Hunchbacks.

that's because the few times we end up in match against each other you go and get killed by someone else before I can bring my Can Opener out to play.....

Deathlike, on 22 December 2015 - 04:07 PM, said:

I like how this thread is bad.

It never ceases to amaze me.

y u gotta b so mean 2 bad? Wut bad do 2 get compared 2 dis thread?

[Alistair Winter]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 December 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

that's because the few times we end up in match against each other you go and get killed by someone else before I can bring my Can Opener out to play.....

[Thunder Child]

I like my Hunchback IIC. It plays just like my Hunchback-4G did before Clans showed up, only now with DUBLE DA DAKKA!!!!

The only thing I wish they would do, is give it a quirk that lets it fire both 20s. I mean seriously, it's bad enough that double-tapping a UAC20 triggers ghost heat, but when you've got two of them in a mech that has the equivalent armor of an Urbanmech (fully armored. The power of quirks man), and the only way you're gonna do anything in a match is to burn through that 3 tons of ammo as fast as possible? Yeah. I don't mind the Glass-Cannon. I just want to be able to actually fire it BEFORE it shatters.

[MechaBattler]

Now let's get an IS omnimech for comparison, andddd go!