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[Hit the Deck]

Not for balancing reasons but for the sake of her look and aesthetic. She should be tall and somewhat lanky.

Incidentally, I find that it has been discussed here before when I was browsing the net for Banshee pics:
http://mwomercs.com/...ted-a-bit-more/

It also needs its "sunglasses" and "gaping demonic mouth" to be more accentuated as I find they to be muted and not instantly recognized, especially the mouth part.

So, what do you think?

[VirtualSmitty]

It's looks have grown on me and honestly, it's the best assault mech the IS has at it's disposal, I wouldn't go messing with perfection.

[DivineEvil]

Concerning her looks, I'm fine with Banshee. The mouth part is centainly something to desire, though. It's just looks odd. Simply replacing the whole grey-metal mess with a pitch-black plate, like the ones Highlanders got on their torsos around the weapons would make it more visible.

Other than that, La Malinche would also can help her mouth-placed laser to be properly centered. Also, her weapon quirks should be redistributed from specific to general weapon bonuses (10/10% => 5/15%), and I think she needs another Missile or Energy hardpoint in the RT. La Malinche has significantly less hardpoints, and I don't see any compensation for it.

[BigBenn]

The Banshee is fine. Compare it to the 100 ton Atlas.

If the Atlas is the standard bearer for the IS 100 ton mechs, and the Locust is the standard bearer for IS 20 ton mechs, PGI should be able to size each and every mech using those two as base models. Every weight class should be withing X amount of specified size **in volume**. I would like to think that between all the variables that could go in to building a mech that all IS 70 ton mechs could be within +/- 5% of whatever is the determined amount.

There is a chart showing just how off the mechs are. The Clan 50 ton Nova and the IS 80 ton Victor have the biggest (no pun intended) variances from their weight class of any two mechs. EDIT: The IS Catapult is another "winnah" of the "off scale" sizing.

With that in mind, I think based on the superior technology the Clan mechs could actually be a tad bit smaller than their IS counter parts when comparing ton for ton.

Edited by BigBenn, 28 December 2015 - 09:11 AM.

[Hit the Deck]

BigBenn, on 28 December 2015 - 06:54 AM, said:

The Banshee is fine. Compare it to the 100 ton Atlas.

If the Atlas is the standard bearer for the IS 100 ton mechs, and the Locust is the standard bearer for IS 20 ton mechs, PGI should be able to size each and every mech using those two as base models. Every weight class should be withing X amount of specified size **in volume**. I would like to think that between all the variables that could go in to building a mech that all IS 70 ton mechs could be within +/- 5% of whatever is the determined amount.
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This was posted on the the linked thread in my OP:



The Banshee is taller than an Atlas (as it should be) and could lose some weight to reach 95% of its volume (or mass).

[Khobai]

all assault mechs should be slimmer. none of them are scaled right except maybe the stalker. an atlas should only be about 3 times the size of a jenner and its more like 4-5 times the size of a jenner.

most assault mechs are in a really bad place right now. they dont get the speed/agility of heavies. they get the same firepower as heavies (because they hit the same heat brick wall as heavies). they have way worse hitboxes than heavies. And all they get is a paltry armor bonus in exchange for losing all that speed/agility and having bigger hitboxes... its not enough. most heavies are outright better.

they really need to introduce weight class specific skill trees in order to make assaults feared again. heavies should be terrified of assaults and theyre not... because heavies know theyve got the same firepower with better hitboxes and speed which amounts to better survivability in general.

the atlas and banshee would both benefit immensely from having an assault specific skill tree that buffed assault durability and firepower. so would most of the other fatass 90+ ton assaults.

Edited by Khobai, 28 December 2015 - 07:25 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

It's a 95 ton mech. An exceptionally good one at that.
It does't need to be slimmer.

Quickdraw, Centurion and a few others are the ones in need of a diet.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

DivineEvil, on 28 December 2015 - 05:48 AM, said:

Concerning her looks, I'm fine with Banshee. The mouth part is centainly something to desire, though. It's just looks odd. Simply replacing the whole grey-metal mess with a pitch-black plate, like the ones Highlanders got on their torsos around the weapons would make it more visible.

Other than that, La Malinche would also can help her mouth-placed laser to be properly centered. Also, her weapon quirks should be redistributed from specific to general weapon bonuses (10/10% => 5/15%), and I think she needs another Missile or Energy hardpoint in the RT. La Malinche has significantly less hardpoints, and I don't see any compensation for it.

It was supposed to have JJ but PGI got scared of P2W whinging for having the only banshee with JJ be a hero mech.

Juodas Varnas, on 28 December 2015 - 07:20 AM, said:

It's a 95 ton mech. An exceptionally good one at that.
It does't need to be slimmer.

Quickdraw, Centurion and a few others are the ones in need of a diet.

Honestly... I think the cent is fine. Yeah it's huge but, it's a durable SOB and that left arm shield really makes it long lived.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 28 December 2015 - 07:37 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 28 December 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

Honestly... I think the cent is fine. Yeah it's huge but, it's a durable SOB and that left arm shield really makes it long lived.

But imagine if it was even better!

Would also look better if it was skinnier, closer to its source material too.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Juodas Varnas, on 28 December 2015 - 07:49 AM, said:

But imagine if it was even better!

Would also look better if it was skinnier, closer to its source material too.

But... the source material is hideous...

[Juodas Varnas]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 28 December 2015 - 08:01 AM, said:

But... the source material is hideous...

Ignoring the fact that this statement is completely subjective,

Fine, then closer to its MWO Concept art, where it's obviously skinnier and sleeker.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Juodas Varnas, on 28 December 2015 - 08:05 AM, said:

Ignoring the fact that this statement is completely subjective,

Fine, then closer to its MWO Concept art, where it's obviously skinnier and sleeker.

I'm willing to compromise and have it look like the concept art.

[Bishop Steiner]

Hit the Deck, on 28 December 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

Not for balancing reasons but for the sake of her look and aesthetic. She should be tall and somewhat lanky.

Incidentally, I find that it has been discussed here before when I was browsing the net for Banshee pics:
http://mwomercs.com/...ted-a-bit-more/

It also needs its "sunglasses" and "gaping demonic mouth" to be more accentuated as I find they to be muted and not instantly recognized, especially the mouth part.

So, what do you think?

courtesy Carrion Crows

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 28 December 2015 - 08:24 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

The first step is not blaming others for your weight problem. The Banshee has no one else to blame but itself.

The second step is doing something about it. Maybe the Banshee just needs some Ultra Slim Fast. It worked for Tommy, it can work for the Banshee.

[Hit the Deck]

MeiSooHaityu, on 28 December 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

The first step is not blaming others for your weight problem. The Banshee has no one else to blame but itself.

Well, she can certainly blame her parents (although it will change nothing) for giving her undesirable genes, or in this case, PGI.

MeiSooHaityu, on 28 December 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

The second step is doing something about it. Maybe the Banshee just needs some Ultra Slim Fast. It worked for Tommy, it can work for the Banshee.

I hope that she'll like it.

[BigBenn]

Hit the Deck, on 28 December 2015 - 06:59 AM, said:

This was posted on the the linked thread in my OP:



The Banshee is taller than an Atlas (as it should be) and could lose some weight to reach 95% of its volume (or mass).

My bad for not clicking on your link (I might have read too fast/not seen it). Where does it sit in the volume chart compared to the IS 90 and 100 ton mechs?

**digs for the pixels "volume" chart**

[Hit the Deck]

BigBenn, on 28 December 2015 - 09:13 AM, said:

My bad for not clicking on your link (I might have read too fast/not seen it). Where does it sit in the volume chart compared to the IS 90 and 100 ton mechs?

**digs for the pixels "volume" chart**

I think this is the one you're looking for:




According to the chart, it's about right size wise but...... it shouldn't be this fat! Slim it down but also make it taller or something. #pgiplz

[SelectiveCape12]

Hit the Deck, on 28 December 2015 - 05:28 AM, said:

Not for balancing reasons but for the sake of her look and aesthetic. She should be tall and somewhat lanky.

Incidentally, I find that it has been discussed here before when I was browsing the net for Banshee pics:
http://mwomercs.com/...ted-a-bit-more/

It also needs its "sunglasses" and "gaping demonic mouth" to be more accentuated as I find they to be muted and not instantly recognized, especially the mouth part.

So, what do you think?

What a coincidence. I was planning on messing with the Banshee next in my fan project. http://mwomercs.com/...ch-proportions/

I've already did the Centurion. So if you guys want to see how it MIGHT look according to the old designs, then there's an alternative in the link.

[Hit the Deck]

SelectiveCape12, on 28 December 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

What a coincidence. I was planning on messing with the Banshee next in my fan project. http://mwomercs.com/...ch-proportions/

I've already did the Centurion. So if you guys want to see how it MIGHT look according to the old designs, then there's an alternative in the link.

Very nice!!! Thanks for showing us the link!

I might not agree with, or like, all of them but some are indeed nice and interesting. For example, I think I prefer your Timby to PGI's.