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#1 MouseNo4

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 02:47 PM

How do i prevent being loaded into this map?

Seems this is the only map players select, preventing me from ever being able to play on the other maps.

I choose any other map and it is all but guaranteed to be 60-70% River City. Effectively making it the only map i am able to play on.

#2 Creag

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:02 PM

I usually keep landing up with Alpine peaks or The Bog, and 9 out 10 always skirmish. If you play with a group it can change this experience as I have found. Good Luck

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:16 PM

Wait until the three second count down and then vote for whatever map is next most popular. It won't work every time, but it will give you the best chance of fighting on a different map.

#4 MouseNo4

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:16 PM

What are the penalties (besides your mech being disabled for the duration of the match) for leaving a match after it starts?

#5 Creag

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:23 PM

If you disconnect on a regular bases the can disable your account or ban you for a period of time.

#6 Alistair Winter

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:28 PM

Man, I wish the same was true for me. Whenever I'm playing, it's almost always just Frozen City, Canyon Network or HPG Manifold.

I love River City, would like to play it more. But I don't usually get it unless I use my x10 modifier.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:31 PM

It's not that i dont like the map, but getting the same one over and over is sure to make it that way very quickly.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:32 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 27 December 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

Man, I wish the same was true for me. Whenever I'm playing, it's almost always just Frozen City, Canyon Network or HPG Manifold.

I love River City, would like to play it more. But I don't usually get it unless I use my x10 modifier.


These are most common for me too, which I kinda like as River Sh***y is one of my least favourite maps. The map is much bigger now, but still continues to be the same ole death trap battle round the citadel each time.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:38 PM

View Post5LeafClover, on 27 December 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:


These are most common for me too, which I kinda like as River Sh***y is one of my least favourite maps. The map is much bigger now, but still continues to be the same ole death trap battle round the citadel each time.

This is true. I always actively try to force my team to take a different approach on River City. Because the dance around Citadel is actually the most boring thing imaginable in MWO. But the ironic thing is that fighting anywhere else on the map is 10 times as fun. I love fighting over upper city or lower city on either sides. Urban warfare is where MWO really shines, it's a pity it happens so rarely.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 03:58 PM

View PostMouseNo4, on 27 December 2015 - 02:47 PM, said:

How do i prevent being loaded into this map?

Seems this is the only map players select, preventing me from ever being able to play on the other maps.

I choose any other map and it is all but guaranteed to be 60-70% River City. Effectively making it the only map i am able to play on.


Haven't been on River City at all today.

#11 Palor

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 04:11 PM

For awhile I seemed to find my self on Crimson Strait way to often. Lately is has been an OD of HPG. Yet, i still find the voting system is more random than the old random map system.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 04:27 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 27 December 2015 - 03:38 PM, said:

This is true. I always actively try to force my team to take a different approach on River City. Because the dance around Citadel is actually the most boring thing imaginable in MWO. But the ironic thing is that fighting anywhere else on the map is 10 times as fun. I love fighting over upper city or lower city on either sides. Urban warfare is where MWO really shines, it's a pity it happens so rarely.


That's because sadly the urban maps all have a large landmark to flock to. If we had just a large sprawling map of nothing but tight lanes and buildings we could at least have more options for it.

Funny enough for all the complaints about frozen city, it is probably the closest to actually accomplishing that, even if it does still have large areas that are ignored completely like every other map.

#13 CJ Daxion

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 05:33 PM

i so wish it would go back to choose your mode, and then random map... these are the stats so far

Frozen city day/night 20
river city 10
crimson strait 10
forest colony 8
Bog 7
tourmaline 6
caustic 5
HPG 5
Mining collectivfe 4
terra 3


45 skirmish
35 assualt
14 conquest...


The above stats make me very, very sad....

View PostPalor, on 27 December 2015 - 04:11 PM, said:

For awhile I seemed to find my self on Crimson Strait way to often. Lately is has been an OD of HPG. Yet, i still find the voting system is more random than the old random map system.


Sorry man, the stats do not prove that statement... the stats on my main account... for map use is about even across the board.. Sure you had streaky days, but over all it balanced out in the end... voting.. there is NO way it is balancing out

Edited by CJ Daxion, 27 December 2015 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2015 - 05:39 PM

View PostOpalescent Death, on 27 December 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:


That's because sadly the urban maps all have a large landmark to flock to. If we had just a large sprawling map of nothing but tight lanes and buildings we could at least have more options for it.

Funny enough for all the complaints about frozen city, it is probably the closest to actually accomplishing that, even if it does still have large areas that are ignored completely like every other map.


They were useful before seismic ruinied non-ECM light mech stealth.

#15 MouseNo4

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 05:48 PM

I would like an option to prevent being in a match where River City is an option. Even if that queue takes longer.

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 06:08 PM

confirmation bias is confirmed.

#17 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 04:51 AM

Playing River City always makes me "Barf!" :)
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Seriously though, I kind of wish PGI would have left the Citadel out of the River City remake. Maybe they could have changed it to a pile of rubble with no cover.

Luckily I still see a lot of upper city movement too that creates some nice fire fights at the starport.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 05:01 AM

View PostCJ Daxion, on 27 December 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

i so wish it would go back to choose your mode, and then random map... these are the stats so far

Frozen city day/night 20
river city 10
crimson strait 10
forest colony 8
Bog 7
tourmaline 6
caustic 5
HPG 5
Mining collectivfe 4
terra 3


45 skirmish
35 assualt
14 conquest...




Given frozen city and frozen city night are 2 separate maps (from a map selection point of view, even with random selection), that is a fairly balanced selection. Only 2 maps were not in the range of 5-10 plays. This is almost certainly more balanced than a true random selection, where you would expect some extreme outliers.

For game mode selection, for sure, it seems less random. But the distribution seems like a reasonable democratic compromise. Most people prefer Skirmish, so there's a bias towards it, but conquest still happens with reasonable regularity.

These stats would support that the Voting system works well IMO.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 05:04 AM

View Post5LeafClover, on 28 December 2015 - 05:01 AM, said:



Given frozen city and frozen city night are 2 separate maps (from a map selection point of view, even with random selection), that is a fairly balanced selection. Only 2 maps were not in the range of 5-10 plays. This is almost certainly more balanced than a true random selection, where you would expect some extreme outliers.

For game mode selection, for sure, it seems less random. But the distribution seems like a reasonable democratic compromise. Most people prefer Skirmish, so there's a bias towards it, but conquest still happens with reasonable regularity.

These stats would support that the Voting system works well IMO.

Unless you happen to like playing the game mode with the highest average rewards and shortest match times.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 05:24 AM

Really? I keep getting Terra Therma ... I hate that map and Caustic Valley (baby vomit). But I keep getting those. Now I just threaten my unit mates who keep picking the damn maps.

Usually, "I will kick you in the nut sack if you pick that map." OR, "I will leg your *** and leave you to die or be ***** by the enemy."

Needless to say that doesn't work ... my suggestion is deal with it because River City is a better map.





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