9 replies to this topic

[KuroNyra]

Hello!
Well. I won't lie to you. I've litteraly falled in love with the warhammer with is brutal look.
Say thank you to Mechwarrior 5 trailer and Mechwarrior Living Legend for that.


But since that mech is an "unseen".
Does that mean there is absolutly 0 chance of seeing that mech in MW:O?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Warhammer
http://www.sarna.net...i/Warhammer_IIC

[ValdnadHartagga]

KuroNyra, on 20 February 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

Does that mean there is absolutly 0 chance of seeing that mech in MW:O?

Absolutely.

Smith & Tinker got in trouble for the 3015 Whammy, so I would expect PGI/IGP to be held up to the same. We're lucky to have the Phoenix 'Mechs that are already in game.

[KuroNyra]

ValdnadHartagga, on 20 February 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

Absolutely.

Smith & Tinker got in trouble for the 3015 Whammy, so I would expect PGI/IGP to be held up to the same. We're lucky to have the Phoenix 'Mechs that are already in game.

Jeez... That suck.
It was one of the best looking mech in the battletech universe...
Even if they make a new design for him it won't work?

[Dakkaface]

KuroNyra, on 20 February 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

Well. I won't lie to you. I've litteraly falled in love with the warhammer with is brutal look.
Say thank you to Mechwarrior 5 trailer and Mechwarrior Living Legend for that.


But since that mech is an "unseen".
Does that mean there is absolutly 0 chance of seeing that mech in MW:O?

Yes. Harmony Gold pretty much exists on lawsuits these days, and even the redesigned 'Reseen' version can be lawsuit bait on the basis of it being a derivative work. PGI doesn't have the money to fight them, so the only Unseen we're getting are the Crusher Joe and Dougram based stuff we've already got in the Project Phoenix package. Macross stuff is not going to happen until HG completely collapses.

[Tyrnea Smurf]

Apparently its complicated.

From what little has been said on the subject it appears that Harmony Gold (the North American rights holder for all things Macross) has veto power even if the Macross unseen are used with and based off totally different art work.

That veto power hasn't been elaborated on, but if I was guessing blind (which I am) I would guess its either a settlement between Microsoft (the electronic IP rights holder to MechWarrior) and Harmony Gold, or possibly stemming from the MechWarrior 5 game preview trailer, which the Warhammer was used, and to which Harmony Gold sued over the use of.

IIRC PGI/IGP was the ones who made that preview trailer and might have granted that veto power as a part of the settlement of that suit.

[Durant Carlyle]

The devs have said there won't be any more Unseen 'Mechs in MW:O.

That means no:
Wasp
Stinger
Valkyrie
Phoenix Hawk
Crusader
Falcon
Firebee
Hornet
Ostroc
Ostsol
Ostscout
Archer
Warhammer
Rifleman
Marauder
Behemoth (Clan)

Reading that statement was a severe disappointment to me, as my favorite 'Mechs are in that list. I'll survive and all, but it was a big let-down.

Edited by Durant Carlyle, 20 February 2014 - 03:52 PM.

[KuroNyra]

Durant Carlyle, on 20 February 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

The devs have said there won't be any more Unseen 'Mechs in MW:O.

That means no:
Wasp
Stinger
Valkyrie
Phoenix Hawk
Crusader
Falcon
Firebee
Hornet
Ostroc
Ostsol
Ostscout
Archer
Warhammer
Rifleman
Marauder
Behemoth (Clan)

Reading that statement was a severe disappointment to me, as my favorite 'Mechs are in that list. I'll survive and all, but it was a big let-down.

I know only the Warhammer and the Rifleman in this list. é_é.

[Silas7]

Necro just to point out that you never can be too sure about the world of business.

[Metus regem]

Marack Drock, on 27 December 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

If it involves Harmony Gold you can be sure you will be sued if you use their property. FASA was, MW5 had a cease and desist on it from HG, and there were 3 or 4 other companies sued as well. Harmony Gold is notorious. Luckily Sony now owns the rights to Robotech so it may be easier to release these films.

Sony licensed the rights to Robotech from HG, HG still 'owns' the rights, from a company that was determined by Japanese courts to have never held the rights in the first place....