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[FACEman Peck]

I personally think the Fafnir would win hands down. A pair of Heavy Gauss Rifles vs. some other assault 'Mech that even has more amount of firepower? I would still put my money on the Fafnir. The Fafnir also has a massive amount of armor to protect those rifles.

[Datum]

Dire Wolf (Daishi).
The Draconis Combine didn't call it the "Great Death" for nothing!
Basically, it's the Clans' idea of an assault mech, so it's gonna do some serious damage. 2 ER Large lasers, a UAC/5, and 2 Medium Pulse lasers per ARM is a pretty good deal.
Though, personally, I prefer the variants dealing with heavier autocannons.

[Haeso]

The Summoner that runs away and goes passive radar until there's only one injured opponent left.

[God of War]

The Thor or the Nova Cat. All the assaults are the first to be zerged down.

[SgtMagor]

a jump jetting Thor, fast mobile heavy mech probably would summon the hurt on most mechs. add to that Dfa and the Thor is one ebil mech . alpha strike while dfaing right into the cockpit of an enemy mech and its all over.

[Slade Deleportas]

Thor, C variant. UAC-20 with a 5/8/5 movement profile. I play the hide and seek game, get within your back arc, only thing you can shoot me with is a medium laser, I have a UAC-20 into your back armor (hopefully) even if i hit arms, a 20 point dmg group sucks. Now of course I am referencing all TT rules and ideas here.

[WhiteRabbit]

Depends on the terrain (city, swamp, forest, plains, etc) ... but overall I'd say Daishi

[BerserX]

I am torn between the shear armor of the Atlas and the resilience/power of the Fafnir. I would prefer to say the Atlas (due to its impressive armor and balanced arsenal), however the Fafnir has a massive advantage with its two HGRs (though, any pilot who's used/fought a Fafnir knows that it is a sitting duck in a pitch battle).

From my personal experience, the Atlas (with me behind the controls) wins every time: assuming I can modify my armament to suit me (and Ricardo Vecci or Robert Yearly [MW4 - Solaris arenas] don't spawn behind me, weapons ready). I kill Fafnirs all the time, with little effort (their torsos twist very slowly). The Fafnir is a slugger cumbersome, while the Atlas is a methodical fighter.

[Alex Wolfe]

Thor, if he has the presence of mind to run and hide like a little girl until the "big bad" assault mechs slug it out. It has the stealth and mobility to hide, and enough firepower to actually be a threat after they wear each other out.

Fafnir and Daishi would most likely be the first to die - being both the most obvious threat and the least mobile/stealthy participant in a FFA is... unhealthy. My guess is Thor finishing off the Atlas as the last mech standing.

Edited by Alex Wolfe, 04 December 2011 - 02:44 PM.

[Lina Thoren]

Another vote for the Thor here. Let the others grind themselves down, then pick off the battered survivors.

[Colonel Bogey]

Its all pilot. The mech does not matter. Given the chance a Panther could take out any of these mechs. Skill and luck would also have to be a factor.

Edited by Colonel Bogey, 04 December 2011 - 02:59 PM.

[EDMW CSN]

Thor will win by running passive and leaping around to hide. Then kill everyone with it's UAC-20 which it has kept in reserved.
Nova Cat will be too hard pressed as it is slower.

[Uncl Munkeh]

Personally I think its pilot, followed by terrain, followed by mech.

There's a HUGE difference in battle between variants if it's in the city or in the mountains, open low hills or the arena.

[Stormwolf]

A fairly limited list for the huge amount of mechs available.

Why no mention of the Blood Asp, Archangel, Pillager or Grand Titan?

[Blackfire1]

Urban mech.

[Joseph Mallan]

Fafnir has the negative of heavy recoil and low ammo. Also in a free for all it would be the first massed fire target. I chose the Daishi, even though it to suffers from the "OMG Kill that now!" syndrome.

In truth the lightest Mech would probably survive due to lack of threat value. IF the pilot used it wisely.

[Tarmok II]

I think i would bet my money on the Atlas, but I'm pretty sure he will lose because except the Steiners most dislike the Atlas and would shoot him down right after the beginning.

[Dougram]

Jumping & hiding or Firing in the back of the enemy with the Thor ?

That arouses the question of Zellbrigen once again.

Aidan Pride tried to use his Nemesis/Thor/Summoner in this way and got shot down by his sibko Marthe Pryde.

( I´m reading all my Novels again )

[Alex Wolfe]

Dougram, on 05 December 2011 - 05:23 AM, said:

Jumping & hiding or Firing in the back of the enemy with the Thor ?

That arouses the question of Zellbrigen once again.

Aidan Pride tried to use his Nemesis/Thor/Summoner in this way and got shot down by his sibko Marthe Pryde.

Conclusion: Clan tech is wasted on Clanners, like youth on the young!

[Nightmare1]

Pilots and terrain would be the greatest determining factors. However, if we removed these two variables so that it was strictly Mech against Mech, then I would have to say that the Dire Wolf, or Daishi, would win when viewed through the lens of the BattleTech series. The OmniMech has a high degree of flexibility due to its diverse weapon options, its definitely tough, and is fast for an assault mech in the series. I consider it a King Mech on the battlefield.

Now, if we're talking in MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries' terms, then I would have to say the Atlas. It just soaks up the damage in that game and keeps on dishing it out. The ECM is nice too.

Overall, however, the pilot skill and the terrain will be major factors. Medium and Heavy Mechs piloted by skilled people, in varied terrain, will win the day; I'm sure. The Thor would be a powerful contender, as would the assault-class Templar. Other Mech's not listed that would prove to be important contenders include the Thanatos, Ryoken, BlackKnight, Loki, Bushwhacker, and Catapult; in terms of Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries.