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[Bishop Steiner]

Daelen Rottiger, on 09 January 2016 - 03:34 AM, said:

Looks great, nice Hard points--- but watch the video where he is shooting the awesome - 2 times not registering dmg. I hope thats not the build we are playing on hitregwise

naw seems to be about right...especially since Steam. But paired PPCs have always had suspect hitreg, as do several other weapons, en masse.

Sometimes I wonder if it isn't some more "hidden code" to try to reduce alphas.

[Daelen Rottiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 January 2016 - 09:48 AM, said:

naw seems to be about right...especially since Steam. But paired PPCs have always had suspect hitreg, as do several other weapons, en masse.

Sometimes I wonder if it isn't some more "hidden code" to try to reduce alphas.

Hidden code to reduce alphas? I hope not. In the vid it's clear to see that hitregs borked... but haven't that seen on live environment for quite some time now.

[Bishop Steiner]

Daelen Rottiger, on 09 January 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

Hidden code to reduce alphas? I hope not. In the vid it's clear to see that hitregs borked... but haven't that seen on live environment for quite some time now.

I see it quite frequently with paired ppc shots, as do many others, have been many threads about them, and tandem SRMs, etc often not registering.

[Bishop Steiner]

Daelen Rottiger, on 09 January 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

Hidden code to reduce alphas? I hope not. In the vid it's clear to see that hitregs borked... but haven't that seen on live environment for quite some time now.

also just rewatched the Awesome getting shot with ac20s, every hit registered.....

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

0bsidion, on 09 January 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

That's the same loadout I used on my Timber Prime, and it worked surprisingly well. Of course that was several nerfs ago, not sure how well it does these days.

I constantly do well in it, minimum 2 kills a match unless I get totally stuck out of position.

[Akira Shindeiru]

Looks gorgeous. Instant buy
But am I the only one still playing with PPC's? Couldn't run a Whammy or a Marauder without 2 of em. In the arms, of course
Going to run them stock mostly. Maybe with pulse lazors tho. Cannot wait

[Bishop Steiner]

0PTICZ, on 09 January 2016 - 12:15 PM, said:

Looks gorgeous. Instant buy
But am I the only one still playing with PPC's? Couldn't run a Whammy or a Marauder without 2 of em. In the arms, of course
Going to run them stock mostly. Maybe with pulse lazors tho. Cannot wait

I run PPCs whenever possible. Is a reason I still own a K2, AWS-8Q, MAD-36, and yes, WHM-6R, amongst other mechs packing Peeps

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 January 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

that's the million dollar question, and probably the toughest hurdle. All the Valkyrie/Veritech are going to be the most difficult due to their central point. I hope we see the Crusader and the Phoenix Hawk, at least.

God, I want my Phoenix Hawk so bad.

Bishop Steiner, on 09 January 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

I see it quite frequently with paired ppc shots, as do many others, have been many threads about them, and tandem SRMs, etc often not registering.

Yup. There's a definite correlation to number used vs. hitreg.

I've found a single PPC to be 100% registered - never an issue. Pairs? It's not at all uncommon to have only one register. It's a LOT worse when they "share" a hardpoint (older mechs with the old-school inflation)

SRM's as well. It's pretty common to have massed SRM's do way less damage than they should.

[Helsbane]

I will be immediately stripping off the PPCs in favor of torso mounted ACs. This ain't tabletop and I know what weapons I perform best with. Turning my Warhammers into mini Maulers will make me smile like the freakin Joker.

[Barantor]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 January 2016 - 11:52 PM, said:

the Goodyear Blimp with legs nailed it? Baby King Crab?

Nah, my friends and I talked this over the other day...

Locust is the pupae stage. The creature doesn't have all it's appendages and makes up for mass with speed.

Crab is the Youngling. At this stage the creature wants to look like the full grown adult, but is still too small and doesn't have all the capacity of the adult.

Marauder is the Adolescent. This one is trying to find it's own way. It has all the right bits, but is still trying to figure out where they all go in life.

King Crab is the full Adult. It has all the parts in all the right places and has become large enough to survive in it's ecosystem. Unfortunately it's mass is part of it's own downfall as smaller species tend to pick it apart.

[Daelen Rottiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 January 2016 - 11:46 AM, said:

also just rewatched the Awesome getting shot with ac20s, every hit registered.....

18.40 - second seems to not register - Russ is even asking if he is doing full dmg.

this is quite weird actually.

Awesome-8Q has Stock Armor CT = 60, CT HP = 50, Quirk CT structure = +25 - that's 135.
Russ takes 8 shots AC20 to it's CT which means he needed 160 DMG to kill it. He should've needed 7 shots for 140 DMG.

As far as I now, testing grounds is stock ladout. can you explain? any idea?

Edited by Daelen Rottiger, 09 January 2016 - 12:44 PM.

[Deathpactt]

Sader325, on 08 January 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

You are deliberately playing your mech badly, forcing your team to carry you.

I'm pretty sure there are rules against that.

LOL are you for real?

[Bishop Steiner]

Helsbane, on 09 January 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

I will be immediately stripping off the PPCs in favor of torso mounted ACs. This ain't tabletop and I know what weapons I perform best with. Turning my Warhammers into mini Maulers will make me smile like the freakin Joker.

added to naughty list.

All I can say....

Deathpactt, on 09 January 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

LOL are you for real?

prime example of an ego writing checks his brain can't cash.

[Bishop Steiner]

Daelen Rottiger, on 09 January 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

18.40 - second seems to not register - Russ is even asking if he is doing full dmg.

this is quite weird actually.

Awesome-8Q has Stock Armor CT = 60, CT HP = 50, Quirk CT structure = +25 - that's 135.
Russ takes 8 shots AC20 to it's CT which means he needed 160 DMG to kill it. He should've needed 7 shots for 140 DMG.

As far as I now, testing grounds is stock ladout. can you explain? any idea?

both register, his comment is because they are outside optimal range (first 2 shots between 390 and 380 meters/Optimal range is 270m), and thus doing less damage, but reticle flashes red, twice. First two shots did half damage due to range. So total damage, 6x20 (120) + first two non optimal shots 2x10 (20) for 140 dmg. 135 total HP, 140 damage to kill, working as intended.

http://www.twitch.tv...mes/v/34314979#

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 09 January 2016 - 12:55 PM.

[Daelen Rottiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 January 2016 - 12:52 PM, said:

both register, his comment is because they are outside optimal range, and thus doing less damage, but reticle flashes red, twice. First two shots did half damage due to range. So total damage, 6x20 (120) + first two non optimal shots 2x10 (20) for 140 dmg. 135 total HP, 140 damage to kill, working as intended.

totally agreed. thx mate

[Sjorpha]

Better, but still a buttfucking ugly mech IMO.

I guess I need an injection of warhammer lore to brainwash me into understanding how it's awesome, or something.

[Wintersdark]

Daelen Rottiger, on 09 January 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

18.40 - second seems to not register - Russ is even asking if he is doing full dmg.

this is quite weird actually.

Awesome-8Q has Stock Armor CT = 60, CT HP = 50, Quirk CT structure = +25 - that's 135.
Russ takes 8 shots AC20 to it's CT which means he needed 160 DMG to kill it. He should've needed 7 shots for 140 DMG.

As far as I now, testing grounds is stock ladout. can you explain? any idea?

... And that's assuming there are no crits scored, which isn't even very likely. Even a single AC20 crit adds 3 damage to structure, so there's 4 shots hitting structure (assuming zero damage is done with other weapons, or it'd be 5). Each of those has a 42% chance (IIRC) to score one to three crits. It's possible to get no crits over those 4 shots, but not very likely.

Sjorpha, on 09 January 2016 - 01:00 PM, said:

Better, but still a buttfucking ugly mech IMO.

I guess I need an injection of warhammer lore to brainwash me into understanding how it's awesome, or something.

Clearly, you're just dead inside.

[Metus regem]

Sjorpha, on 09 January 2016 - 01:00 PM, said:

Better, but still a buttfucking ugly mech IMO.

I guess I need an injection of warhammer lore to brainwash me into understanding how it's awesome, or something.

The Mech is meant to be able to kill or cripple any other Mech out there... At Tech level 1, even a mighty assualt class like the Awesome (a death machine in TT) or Atlas ir Banshee, looks at the Warhammer and goes "I can probably take it, but I'm not going to be in good shape after..."

Twin PPC's for 4+ hexes, then close under that, and let them eat SRM6/ twin MLas, twin SLas and twin MG's to then give them a physical attack for up to 14 damage...

[Bishop Steiner]

Sjorpha, on 09 January 2016 - 01:00 PM, said:

Better, but still a buttfucking ugly mech IMO.

I guess I need an injection of warhammer lore to brainwash me into understanding how it's awesome, or something.

Hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You are welcome to your opinion. I think the MWO incarnation of the MAD is inbred chubchaser ugly. Others love it. Not every mech is for every player. Stop trying to understand it, and you'll probably have less of a headache!

(I don't see what people get all up in a lather about Giselle Bundchen, either, think she has a face like a teenage boy. And a pretty "average" model body. But to each their own. I'll stick to lusting after Salma Hayek. Ain't subjective concepts grand?)

Metus regem, on 09 January 2016 - 01:07 PM, said:

The Mech is meant to be able to kill or cripple any other Mech out there... At Tech level 1, even a mighty assualt class like the Awesome (a death machine in TT) or Atlas ir Banshee, looks at the Warhammer and goes "I can probably take it, but I'm not going to be in good shape after..."

Twin PPC's for 4+ hexes, then close under that, and let them eat SRM6/ twin MLas, twin SLas and twin MG's to then give them a physical attack for up to 14 damage...

Yeah, light armor for it's size, but comparably sustainable firepower for it's era to compensate.

[Sjorpha]

Metus regem, on 09 January 2016 - 01:07 PM, said:

The Mech is meant to be able to kill or cripple any other Mech out there... At Tech level 1, even a mighty assualt class like the Awesome (a death machine in TT) or Atlas ir Banshee, looks at the Warhammer and goes "I can probably take it, but I'm not going to be in good shape after..."

Twin PPC's for 4+ hexes, then close under that, and let them eat SRM6/ twin MLas, twin SLas and twin MG's to then give them a physical attack for up to 14 damage...

Yeah I'd love it if I only had to read about it and not see the model.