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[ReemusX]

Maybe I am just being lazy this Sunday and not looking hard in forums for the content on this but, exactly what is the pilot rating/ tier for? I am assuming for match making?

I have been stuck at the exact spot on the progress bar in Tier 5 since I started. It has not moved. What factors move this? Is it really anything I should care about?

Since yesterday I have not been a quick match on the winning side except one...which was a fluke. Every match (up to around 45 or so) since yesterday has been a complete annihilation of our team. We are talking no more than 4 kills total.... but usually just 0-2 kills for the whole team.

I love the game so far and not really frustrated about it... It is what it is... But it is definitely taking a VERY VERY long time to earn any rewards to further my "mech-ness"..

Is there anything I am supposed to do to up this? Or should I try to find groups?

[WildeKarde]

Just need to win, no matter how bad you do as long as the team wins you'll go up. Win with a better score and it'll go up quicker.

[ReemusX]

Ok, say for instance now....with this 50 game losing streak, I am usually getting a good score (not really kills but a lot of other stuff since my teams are only getting around 2 kills a match total). Does your score help with your tier regardless of win or lose? Or is a team/match loss always going to take you down?

[Coolant]

u can stay equal (you will see an = sign at the End of Round screen) on a really good game and even go up on an exceptional game on a loss. You almost automatically go up on a win however.

[1Grimbane]

hang in there man two to three real good matches where you score high and win will zip you to tier 4... and tier 3 ain't that far off from there..... then the grind begins lol

[Tangelis]

I've never in my MWO adventure experienced going anything resembling 1 - 44. Ouch.

Moving up through the tiers is governed by your overall performance and simply speaking..the better you do the higher the increase.

There is a weight towards winning....meaning if you win a match your PSR will generally go up regardless of a sub-par game, (Unless you did utterly horrible) and even in that case you are more likely to remain "=" than go down.

The opposite is also true...losing is weighted towards a decrease but from my experience, if you did moderately well it's nominal. However if you had an exceptional game you can increase even with the loss, or stay even.

Thus... if you have gone 44 losses of 45 games and your Tier bar barely moved you're probably performing better than you think.

That is however a really god awful run of bad luck, I have to believe the wins will start coming which should bring a substantial increase in regards to your rewards.

[Mech Jager]

If you want to win, run the Scarecrow or King Crab trials and stay with the group and play more aggressively.

Lights, LRMs and snipers can have a place in the game, but it takes a better combination of mechs and player skills to do this. It is too easy to get caught away from the main engagement doing constant damage thinking you are helping.

Just be with 2-3 others and try to move forward at the same time, most people will run and die quickly giving your team the lead. This is the most effective and reliable tactic that must be learned before moving on to the other stuff that folks will state "can work".

[Jman5]

PSR is based on match score (not damage) and the match score you need to go up is dependent on whether you won or lost.

Death Proof, on 09 October 2015 - 11:19 AM, said:

WIN
400+ = Large PSR Increase
250-399 = Medium PSR Increase
100-249 = Small PSR Increase
0-99 = No Change

LOSS
400+ = Small PSR Increase
250-399 = No Change
100-249 = Medium PSR decrease
0-99 = Large PSR decrease

Since damage is a large chunk of match score (half your damage is converted into match score), a good rule of thumb is to at the very least try to always get at least 200 damage. That will avoid you taking a large PSR hit on a loss, or a no-change on a win.

Obviously if you win a lot your PSR will tend to climb faster, but as long as you're mostly having 200+ damage matches you should trend upward.

[Nightmare1]

ReemusX, on 10 January 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Maybe I am just being lazy this Sunday and not looking hard in forums for the content on this but, exactly what is the pilot rating/ tier for? I am assuming for match making?

I have been stuck at the exact spot on the progress bar in Tier 5 since I started. It has not moved. What factors move this? Is it really anything I should care about?

Since yesterday I have not been a quick match on the winning side except one...which was a fluke. Every match (up to around 45 or so) since yesterday has been a complete annihilation of our team. We are talking no more than 4 kills total.... but usually just 0-2 kills for the whole team.

I love the game so far and not really frustrated about it... It is what it is... But it is definitely taking a VERY VERY long time to earn any rewards to further my "mech-ness"..

Is there anything I am supposed to do to up this? Or should I try to find groups?

The Tier bar is more like an XP bar than a measure of one's skill. The more you play, the farther up the bar you go. It also take a very long time for the bar to move, so you won't really notice any changes over the course of your normal play time. You'll only start to notice the changes after a while once they've started to add up. I've been in T2 for a while now despite playing many games and experiencing some incredible wins, simply because the bar moves so slowly. So don't get discouraged! Hang in there! It just takes a while.

Regarding the MM, yes, PSR is used to match players for games. The thought is that pilots with higher tiers will be more experienced, if not necessarily better, and so they should be matched with pilots close to their experience level. Notice that this is not really based on skill; you can be in Tier 1 or Tier 2 and still be an awful player. Conversely, you could be in Tier 4 or Tier 5 and be phenomenal. Skill helps you fill the meter faster, but that's all. The MM is operating on the assumption that I, as a Tier 2 player, know the ins and outs of the game better than a Tier 4 player, and so I should be paired with other Tier 2s, regardless of where my actual skill level may be.

All that being said, the MM is working pretty well right now, I think. There are still rolls occasionally, but it's a big improvement over the old MM where rolls where pretty much the norm.

One last thing about progressing your tier; wins pretty much guarantee upwards mobility while losses may or may not translate into downwards mobility. I actually have a screenshot from a friend who disco'd from a match and was only able to reconnect at the end, when it was too late for him to contribute. Despite dealing 0 damage and having an overall score of 0 in every category, his PSR went up simply because he was on the winning team. So, it's more important to win to boost your PSR than it is to do anything else to boost it.

I recommend you join a Unit. If you don't have a lot of time to play, then find a casual one (like mine - click my sig) that won't place restraints or demands on you. Dropping with a group greatly improves your chances of winning, will help you learn the game more quickly and efficiently, and will let you climb out of the lower Tiers at a much faster rate than if you were to continue solo'ing it.

Best of luck!

[ReemusX]

Thanks for the info fellas. I decided to sprinkle some powdered sugar (win dust) on my PC and let it sink in....About to hop on and see if it worked!!

Also, I only have the US server checked and not the others. I seem to run a ping of around 100-150 on those but 45-55 on US. So these losses are on the US server...

IT WORKED!! 2 wins in a row now and they have been great games - very close and one ran timer down with a kill difference. Need more powdered sugar....

Edited by ReemusX, 10 January 2016 - 05:54 PM.