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[VinJade]

The KingFisher is a sweet mech from the early years of the Clans as it was first produced in 2887 and has a standard engine making it a rugged omni mech that is cheaper than some standard IS assaults!

however using a Standard engine comes at a price though as it cannot mount as many weapons as the Dire wolf can, Though don't let that get you down as it hold more fire power than some other assaults of the same weight class!

and may configurations to chose from allowing the player to pick some fun ones or create their own configurations!

want to try one out? ask your local MWO dealer today to see if you to can own this beauty!

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kingfisher

Edited by VinJade, 10 January 2016 - 02:42 AM.

[charov]

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Engine Star League Standard 360

Sorry OP, but LOLNOPE.

[Wrathful Scythe]

360 STD in a 90T omni clanmech? I pass.
With 17 DHS, its bound to be another laser mech and I don't think we need another one of those.

[VinJade]

got to admit though with a std engine it won't go down as easily as a dire wolf or any other assault/heavy clan mech would if it lost it's sides and you can still do some good stuff with it besides being another laser boat(I have seen players do more with less before).

also they couldn't screw this one up that bad could they?

Edited by VinJade, 10 January 2016 - 02:58 AM.

[kapusta11]

It has one ton less pod space than Timberwolf with equal amount of DHS and runs pretty fast (70 kph).

However, if PGI buff STD engines with structure quirks to make them not obsolete compared to cheat engines it might end up being a good mech.

Edited by kapusta11, 10 January 2016 - 02:59 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

kapusta11, on 10 January 2016 - 02:59 AM, said:

It has one ton less pod space than Timberwolf with equal amount of DHS and runs pretty fast (70 kph).

However, if PGI buff STD engines with structure quirks to make them not obsolete compared to cheat engines it might end up being a good mech.

Too many "ifs" and "mights" in that sentence.

[Juodas Varnas]

Don't clanners whine about how Clan Assaults suck? And now you actually want one that's literally worse than anything in-game already?

GG

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 10 January 2016 - 06:09 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Juodas Varnas, on 10 January 2016 - 06:08 AM, said:

Don't clanners whine about how Clan Assaults suck? And now you actually want one that's literally worse than anything in-game already?

GG

Frankly, I would rather they unlocked internal structure. Then at least the Gargoyle could carry a solid payload and be worth its tonnage outside of SPLas boat, plus fixing several lighter omnis along the way (SMN, MDD, NVA). A slightly more level playing field. I'd take a sweeping Quality of Life improvement across all Clan mechs (to which unlocked internals actually only impacts the "bad" ones, actually) to adding a new one any day of the week because more mechs that are poor choices might as well be no new mechs when you want to win. :\

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 10 January 2016 - 06:11 AM.

[TELEFORCE]

I would love to see the Kingfisher in-game. It has a reputation on tabletop for being extremely rugged. It's a Clan zombie omnimech. The center torso often contains one or two energy weapons, so it could still fight when it's reduced down to a center torso on legs.

I imagine that it would need some serious torso armor or structure quirks to be competitive with the current Clan omnimechs, though. It's another design that lends itself to high-heat weapons due to its amount of fixed double heatsinks, much like the Gargoyle.

I don't think the Kingfisher has been featured in a MechWarrior game yet.

Edited by TELEFORCE, 10 January 2016 - 06:29 AM.

[4chtun9]

Excellent choice!

Clans could definitely use a tanky Assault. Many different varied configs as well.

Endo/Ferro & SFE? Make this happen!

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Oh look another clan mech that's 5 tons too heavy and thus loses a fair amount of free tonnage as a result.

What a surprise.

If you're grabbing a 4/6 std engine omni, get the woodsman.

[Valdherre Tor]

TELEFORCE, on 10 January 2016 - 06:28 AM, said:

I would love to see the Kingfisher in-game. It has a reputation on tabletop for being extremely rugged. It's a Clan zombie omnimech. The center torso often contains one or two energy weapons, so it could still fight when it's reduced down to a center torso on legs.

I imagine that it would need some serious torso armor or structure quirks to be competitive with the current Clan omnimechs, though. It's another design that lends itself to high-heat weapons due to its amount of fixed double heatsinks, much like the Gargoyle.

I don't think the Kingfisher has been featured in a MechWarrior game yet.

Liquid metal tags anyone?

[LordNothing]

VinJade, on 10 January 2016 - 02:55 AM, said:

got to admit though with a std engine it won't go down as easily as a dire wolf or any other assault/heavy clan mech would if it lost it's sides and you can still do some good stuff with it besides being another laser boat(I have seen players do more with less before).

also they couldn't screw this one up that bad could they?

running std on clan hardware is great. you wouldnt think so but it is. you know how many timbys ive racked?

[wanderer]

It actually compares favorably with similar-weight IS assaults and would likely be the tankiest Clan assault of the bunch.

There'd definitely be a place for it in Clanner arsenals.

[Pariah Devalis]

wanderer, on 11 January 2016 - 05:23 AM, said:

It actually compares favorably with similar-weight IS assaults and would likely be the tankiest Clan assault of the bunch.

There'd definitely be a place for it in Clanner arsenals.

Ehh. A Mauler with a 325 is still pushing about 34 tons of room with totally maxed out armor, and that engine might be oversized for that mech. Go with a 300 and it has about 38 tons of room. The Kingfisher only has about 24 tons of room. Even with Clan weight savings, that is not a heck of a lot of space for a 90 ton mech.

[GreyNovember]

As long as you don't say tanky now, and complain when it gets focus fired, claiming it's too squishy when you actually take it out and get hit by a lance of TBRs.

[Alistair Winter]

Pass.

Give me the Supernova instead plx. Clan Battlemech. Invent some cool variants with interesting hardpoints.

Done.

[Anjian]

Gimme a Night Gyr. 75 tonner heavy. Started production in 3052 by the Clan Jade Falcons.

[Widowmaker1981]

Pariah Devalis, on 11 January 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

Ehh. A Mauler with a 325 is still pushing about 34 tons of room with totally maxed out armor, and that engine might be oversized for that mech. Go with a 300 and it has about 38 tons of room. The Kingfisher only has about 24 tons of room. Even with Clan weight savings, that is not a heck of a lot of space for a 90 ton mech.

Mauler has 43 tons of space with a STD300 actually, assuming you take Endo (which you would, and the Kingfisher has endo + ferro, so might as well compare like for like)

[0bsidion]

Juodas Varnas, on 10 January 2016 - 06:08 AM, said:

Don't clanners whine about how Clan Assaults suck? And now you actually want one that's literally worse than anything in-game already?

GG

Maybe some do, but I don't. I took my DWF out for the first time in a long time the other night and got 4 kills. Had some decent Executioner games too, I believe I even had a 4 kill game in that thing.

The only clan assault I ever complain about is Gargles. Scale of an assault with the speed of a heavy and firepower of a medium, it's a sorry excuse of a mech IMO. And all its firepower is in its bloody arms, just shoddy mech design all around.

Admittedly I wouldn't mind being able to pull MASC out of the EXE, and maybe some more torso hardpoints, but it's not a huge deal.