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Digital Pseudonym, on 11 January 2016 - 05:54 AM, said:

I currently run ravens all 4 work well enough but I need something heavier to get to grips with :
So . . .
It has to be Inner Sphere !
Have jump jets !

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I would like ecm
and ideally have chicken legs . . . don't ask why ..I just like em . . .
Any heavy/med, heavies or assault I should look at ?

At first, English is not my native language, so I apologize for some inevitable broken phrases.

Second, you are lucky. I prefer Inner Sphere battlemechs than Clan omnis, I think that not jumping medium and light mechs are suspicious and I would like see ECM on all my mechs. And yes, I have 300+ hours of the game, so there's something I can talk about it.

If we're talking about IS meds, you have 2 option: Cicada 3М and Griffin 2N. It's all about what you can buy for CB.
Cicada is some sort of locust, which means speed, small tonnage and of course chicken legs. As I already said, I do not believe in not jumping medium, so I do not use this mech.

Griffin It is a different thing. You can use them like LRM boat, and get 30-40 missiles in a salvo. But more fun take SRM6 or SMR4 and be head hunter. The problem is that Griffin 55 ton mech. GIANT HUMANOID ROBOT. So that the enemies do not see you on the scanners, but perfectly see with their eyes. So it's not the easiest playing style. But still fun.
Well, like you understand, Griffin built around missiles.Of course, you can buy Spaky for MC which don't have any missiles at all but that's another story.

Cataphract. I like this thing. I have ECM model, jump model and missiles model. The first two give me a lot of fun, a third give me a lot of butthurt. But this is probably my personal issue.
My 0XP is some sort of Hunchback - AC20 and 4 med lasers. I was a little discouraged by this fact, but this build shows good results for me, so that's OK. All the same, you can use different weapons load, for example, Gauss gun plus something. So no one forced you in brawling.That is certainly good. Lots of options, a lot of fun.


In my opinion, one of the best ECM mechs is Shadow Cat. And yes this is clan thing. Good speed, excellent jumping, medium size for this class. There is no any special armor or firepower, it mech for reconnaissance, hunting and sniping. Hey! Shadow Cat have chicken legs too!

[Alistair Winter]

I cannot recommend the GRF-2N enough. Such a fantastic mech, such a fantastic design. For a long time, I ran 2ML, 2SRM6, 2SRM4. I recently switched to 2SRM6, SRM4 and 1ERPPC (because I feel Griffins should have PPCs) and I was amazed that it actually improved my results. It means I can now ERPPC poke at range, and switch to SRMs only in brawls. In those really close duels, where it comes down to the final second, I can alpha strike with my ER PPC just for that extra 10 dmg before I overheat.

No chicken legs, but one of the prettiest humanoid mechs in the game.

And medium mechs jump so high with jump jets too <3

[adamts01]

Blackjacks are on sale right now. Jump on that.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 11 January 2016 - 10:43 PM, said:

I cannot recommend the GRF-2N enough. Such a fantastic mech, such a fantastic design. For a long time, I ran 2ML, 2SRM6, 2SRM4. I recently switched to 2SRM6, SRM4 and 1ERPPC (because I feel Griffins should have PPCs) and I was amazed that it actually improved my results. It means I can now ERPPC poke at range, and switch to SRMs only in brawls. In those really close duels, where it comes down to the final second, I can alpha strike with my ER PPC just for that extra 10 dmg before I overheat.

No chicken legs, but one of the prettiest humanoid mechs in the game.

And medium mechs jump so high with jump jets too <3

There are some mechs that just feel like they should have PPCs

I also equipped a PPC on the St. Ives Blue. I've ran 1 ERPPC/2SRM6+Art or 1 ERPPC/ 2 MLasers / 1 SRM4+Art; all just because that arm just looks like it needs a PPC (even though for some dumb reason the St. Ives Blue doesn't have PPC quirks like it's other Vindicator brothers ). Now I'm running 2 ERPPCs with a lot of DHS (a slower 1AA sniper like build). Even with a 1.4 heat efficency, it is a bit hot though.

As for looks on the Griffin, it is an acquired taste I think, but definitely a serious medium. For Humanoid mechs, I the Vindicator might be my favorite looking, even if it is a pain in the @ss to play well.

[Karl Marlow]

Digital Pseudonym, on 11 January 2016 - 05:54 AM, said:

I currently run ravens all 4 work well enough but I need something heavier to get to grips with :
So . . .
It has to be Inner Sphere !
Have jump jets !

**********

I would like ecm
and ideally have chicken legs . . . don't ask why ..I just like em . . .

Any heavy/med, heavies or assault I should look at ?

Sounds like you want a Griffin for jumping ecm or a catapult for a jumping chicken walker.

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MeiSooHaityu, on 12 January 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

For Humanoid mechs, I the Vindicator might be my favorite looking, even if it is a pain in the @ss to play well.

He is so bad?

[MeiSooHaityu]

TAKTCOM, on 12 January 2016 - 04:30 AM, said:

He is so bad?

I've had a lot better luck with other mediums. There are a few things against it. Some are more my opinion, but I think there is support for it.

*Slow for it's weight due to a low engine cap. 1AA engine cap should be chassis wide. A Cicada is 5 tons lighter but can frequently go 120~130kph+. Even 1AA's top speed of 114kph across the board would be adequate IMO.

*Big CT with 45tonner worth of armor. CT melts in this mech. Kind of reminds me of the Ebon Jaguar or early Black Knight except it has a lot less armor so it goes quicker.

*Low arms with limited hard points. PGI tried to make up for it with very good PPC quirks (and most Vindi's jump really well), but I think the idea was that the missile hard point(s) take away from well placed energy. SRMs and streaks are good, but require close up engagements and with it's size and lower speed, I wouldn't really want to get close enough to use them. It could be used for LRMs, but ehhh. 1R has good hard points though, do it isn't as bad.

Basically the Vindicator has Crab like hard points, but twice the frontal surface area and 5 less tons (10 less armor points for protection) and I'd slower. On the plus side though, Vindicators jump really darn well (Crab has one good jumper).

It sounds like I dislike it, but I do play it and I can do OK if I play really passive (poptart at long distances once team engages). Even then, I have been plucked out of the air on s few occasions from a high alpha.

Its just a hard medium to use due to an awkward size, with an iffy CT hitbox , slow speed, and wonky hard points.

It looks really cool and jumps well so I keep messing with it for some reason.

P.S. I used to hate the 1X variant, but A/C2s in it are kind of fun (3 A/C2s w/ MLaser or 2 A/C2s and a PPC ).

[TAKTCOM]

MeiSooHaityu, on 12 January 2016 - 05:27 AM, said:

I've had a lot better luck with other mediums. There are a few things against it. Some are more my opinion, but I think there is support for it...

Thank you, it was interesting. I was thinking about buying 1AA but his low arms... And other variants too slow. Heavy clan omnis move faster. I could live with it if it is offset by survivability (like BJ) or firepower (like Hunch IIC). But this is not happening. So I'm probably doomed to buy BJ if i need PPC mech in 35-45 segment.

[Dread Render]

Sounds to me like you want a Shadow Cat

... oh sorry, not IS.

Edited by Render, 12 January 2016 - 06:20 AM.

[Metus regem]

adamts01, on 11 January 2016 - 11:01 PM, said:

Blackjacks are on sale right now. Jump on that.

You know that means they are going to get adjusted soon right?

[MeiSooHaityu]

TAKTCOM, on 12 January 2016 - 06:14 AM, said:

Thank you, it was interesting. I was thinking about buying 1AA but his low arms... And other variants too slow. Heavy clan omnis move faster. I could live with it if it is offset by survivability (like BJ) or firepower (like Hunch IIC). But this is not happening. So I'm probably doomed to buy BJ if i need PPC mech in 35-45 segment.

The JJs help offset the low arms, but so much of the torso is exposed to do so that it is too much a target IMO.

I think the Black Jack would be OK. Just keep in mind that quirks are not permanent. The BJ looks durable with the current quirks, but that might change in the future. Still, probably a decent medium.

[Metus regem]

MeiSooHaityu, on 12 January 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

The JJs help offset the low arms, but so much of the torso is exposed to do so that it is too much a target IMO.

I think the Black Jack would be OK. Just keep in mind that quirks are not permanent. The BJ looks durable with the current quirks, but that might change in the future. Still, probably a decent medium.

Those quirks are some what out of proportion to what it should have.... That Blackjack has more structure than some Assualt Mechs twice it's tonnage, that's just wrong.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Metus regem, on 12 January 2016 - 06:30 AM, said:

Those quirks are some what out of proportion to what it should have.... That Blackjack has more structure than some Assualt Mechs twice it's tonnage, that's just wrong.

That's why I would never count on quirks to stay. In the Black Jack's case, I wouldn't doubt if structure was debuffed in an upcoming patch.

Like I've said before, take some of those structure buffs out of the Black Jack and give it to the Vindicator's CT

[Metus regem]

MeiSooHaityu, on 12 January 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

That's why I would never count on quirks to stay. In the Black Jack's case, I wouldn't doubt if structure was debuffed in an upcoming patch.

Like I've said before, take some of those structure buffs out of the Black Jack and give it to the Vindicator's CT

If there is any IS medium that could use some, I'd say the Centurion family, now yes I know they can be very tanky with a Standard Engine, they can also be very good at rolling damage with a big XL, but what I mean about structure buffs is in the Lore for the Centurion they use words like "rugged" and "tough", to me that means she should be those things not a Mech that is not known for those things.