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[LORD ORION]

It's a popular topic, and I did the work for myself, so here's another list based on the mechs in MWO (common variants not available in MWO are excluded from this list)

1) These mechs are in common operation by the FWLM as of 3050 (they have parts and techs)
2) For the new mechs sporting Star League tech, scroll down to the bottom note.

Light Mechs

Locust [20 tons]
LCT-1E
LCT-1V

Spider [30 tons] (Special note: FWLM has a CRAP TON of Spiders)
SDR-5V

Firestarter [35 tons]
FS9-H
FS9-K

Medium Mechs

Cicada [40 tons]
CDA-2A

Blackjack [45 tons]
BJ-1

Centurion [50 tons]
CN9-A

Hunchback [50 tons]
HBK-4G
HBK-4H
HBK-4J
HBK-4P
HBK-4SP

Trebuchet [50 tons] (special note: FWLM has quite a few of these)
TBT-5N
TBT-5J

Griffin [55 tons]
GRF-1N
GRF-1S

Wolverine [55 tons] (special note: FWLM has a CRAP TON of Wolverines)
WVR-6R

Heavy Mechs

Quickdraw [60 tons]
QKD-4G
QKD-4H

Catapult [65 tons]
CPLT-C1

Thunderbolt [65 tons] (Special note: FWLM has quite a few of these)
TDR-5S
TDR-5SS

Orion [75 tons] (special note: FWLM has a CRAP TON of Orions)
ON1-K
ON1-V
ON1-VA


Assault Mechs

Awesome [80 tons] (Special Note: FWLM has a crap ton of Awesomes)
AWS-8Q
AWS-8R
AWS-8T
AWS-8V

Victor [80 tons]
VTR-9B

Battlemaster [85 tons]
BLR-1G

Highlander [85 tons]
HGN-733
HGN-733C
HGN-733P

Stalker [85 tons]
STK-3F
STK-3H
STK-4N

Banshee [95 tons]
BNC-3E
BNC-3M

Atlas [100 tons]
AS7-D


Star League Tech
Special Marik mechs have just been coming off of the production lines as of 3050. They are found only in top units 1st because of limited production numbers. So to have access you usually have to belong to an elite unit, or a unit with special privileges, or be connected to the right contacts)

Free Worlds Guards: 1st, 2nd
Fusiliers of Oriente: 1st, 5th, Ducal Guard
Marik Militia: 1st, 6th, 10th

LCT-3M
CDA-3M
TBT-7M
SHD-5M
GRF-3M
ON1-M
AWS-9M
STK-5M
BLR-3M

Special note:
LCT-1M is an export version of the Locust to The Federated Suns and is not found in any significant numbers in use by the FWLM

Edited by LORD ORION, 30 September 2014 - 09:38 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

I'm not sure how accurate this list is, pretty sure the ON1-M is a Marik variant.

EDIT: Yup, first used by FWLM in 3049, and 3050. Most of the weapons and tech was provided by Kali Yama Weapons Industries Incorporated, which is one of the biggest FWLM manufacturers/providers.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 25 September 2014 - 08:16 AM.

[LORD ORION]

IraqiWalker, on 25 September 2014 - 08:14 AM, said:

I'm not sure how accurate this list is, pretty sure the ON1-M is a Marik variant.

EDIT: Yup, first used by FWLM in 3049, and 3050. Most of the weapons and tech was provided by Kali Yama Weapons Industries Incorporated, which is one of the biggest FWLM manufacturers/providers.

You didn't read the part where it said "For the new mechs sporting Star League tech, scroll down to the bottom note."

I'll bold it so it's harder to miss. Thanks for the reply.

Edited by LORD ORION, 25 September 2014 - 08:26 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

LORD ORION, on 25 September 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

You didn't read the part where it said "For the new mechs sporting Star League tech, scroll down to the bottom note."

I'll bold it so it's harder to miss. Thanks for the reply.

Woops, reading comprehension fail on my end. Just highlighting the 2 points up top should do it.

Thanks for the reference list by the way.

[Molossian Dog]

Sidenote:

The FWL is a "prolific Wolverine user".

But our standard Succession Wars Wolverine variant, the WVR-6M is not included in the game. (On the tabletop it was clearly the best of the lot)

Same applies to the 3050 FWLM upgrade of the Wolverine, the WVR-7M. (Another contender for the medium mech crown.)

You can try to substitue both with the -7K. The hardpoints of the -6K fit a tiny bit better, but then there is the JJ issue.

Edited by Molossian Dog, 26 September 2014 - 01:55 AM.

[Kifferson von doober]

Only the one BJ, makes kiffy a saad panda

[Molossian Dog]

Resolute Panda might have more success.

[LORD ORION]

Molossian Dog, on 26 September 2014 - 01:53 AM, said:

Sidenote:

The FWL is a "prolific Wolverine user".

But our standard Succession Wars Wolverine variant, the WVR-6M is not included in the game. (On the tabletop it was clearly the best of the lot)

Same applies to the 3050 FWLM upgrade of the Wolverine, the WVR-7M. (Another contender for the medium mech crown.)

You can try to substitue both with the -7K. The hardpoints of the -6K fit a tiny bit better, but then there is the JJ issue.

That is one thing that needs to be added, there are more WVR-6Ms in service than any other type of Wolverine anywhere.

It would also offer something significant the other current MWO models don't, a left arm energy hard point.

[Triordinant]

The WVR-7M won't appear until they (if ever) include MASC in the game, but there's no reason not to have the WVR-6M.

[CN9 ACE PILOT]

I wish they would release the FWL militia paint scheme as a camo, want this so badly on my CN9's.

[Hoax415]

That's an interesting list. My own research into the subject has found most lists don't include:
-Any Blackjacks (except salvage)
-Any Catapults (except salvage)
-Any Highlanders (its an odd chassis in terms of lore though)
-The K Firestarter
-The 1S Griffin
-The SS Thunderbolt

Here's an official enough for me unit availability list though certainly not the same as some of the much older in print stuff.

Also did you just miss the TBT-5J because almost every list would say that's a Marik mech.

I really ought to find my Field Manual FWL and see how that differs from the various online lists.

Edited by Hoax415, 28 September 2014 - 05:56 AM.

[Molossian Dog]

The [3058] Field Manual won´t be very helpful. Likewise the rulebook RATs. They are more like a guideline.

Check the classic Battletech forums and search for MadCapellan´s fan-made Objective Raids supplement. The most accurate list of components and battlemech production I know of.

Of course you have to take it with a grain of salt. Early BT sources weren´t keen on fact checking.

And just because you don´t produce something doesn´t mean you can´t import it in quantities.
The Ostsol story highlights another special case. There were no production centers left, but on Connaught replacement parts were still manufactured. So the FWL could keep their Ostsols operational while other nations could not. That resulted in more of them to be found in the FWLM than elsewhere, but not really numerous in absolute numbers.

You have more or less to accept some inconsistencies in the early periods. And the standard answer is always: "whatever works for your game".

Edited by Molossian Dog, 28 September 2014 - 08:29 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Hoax415, on 28 September 2014 - 05:55 AM, said:

Also did you just miss the TBT-5J because almost every list would say that's a Marik mech.

True, it's a FWLM mech from pre 3000s.

[LORD ORION]

Hoax415, on 28 September 2014 - 05:55 AM, said:

Also did you just miss the TBT-5J because almost every list would say that's a Marik mech.

Yeah I missed it,
It is THE Marik treb until the M upgrades,
I'm thinking I checked to see if the S version was in MWO (another Treb variant in use by Marik) and when it wasn't I moved onto the next mech instead of continuing to check the other variants. Oops.

Added, and thanks for pointing that one out.

[LORD ORION]

Hoax415, on 28 September 2014 - 05:55 AM, said:

-Any Blackjacks (except salvage)

Captured on planet Outreach + Trade Deals with Davion + Salvage

Hoax415 said:

-Any Catapults (except salvage)

Appropriated from Hollis Industries when FWLM controlled Corey + Salvage

Hoax415 said:

-Any Highlanders (its an odd chassis in terms of lore though)

Same deal as Catapult + Salvage

Hoax415 said:

-The K Firestarter

This was not a special production run. This variant was available for sale along side the standard FS9-H during the Star League era, and was in use by nearly every military.

Hoax415 said:

-The 1S Griffin

Marik 1N's would have been converted into 1S's in the old days when they lacked PPCs, and the 1S was the only Griffin in production. (and thus more easily servicable)

Hoax415 said:

-The SS Thunderbolt

This design is available to any House willing to pay for it.... and since Marik owns a Thunderbolt plant that fulfills orders to anyone.... they pretty much get stuck with any surplus to go alongside of their S versions.

Edited by LORD ORION, 30 September 2014 - 09:47 AM.

[Evogenesis]

So glad that the 15th Marik Militia got a shipment of Star League tech upgraded mechs. I own and mastered all the M variants.

[Odanan]

Hey, I updated my tables with the latest released mechs. Here you can see the percentage of mechs used by all factions in 3039:

Odanan, on 22 March 2016 - 06:43 PM, said:

These are the updated tables:

Spoiler

And

Remember we are now at ~3053 and new mech designs are popping up all through IS (and Clans). Some mechs not in the list might be released next (like the Bushwacker).

[Odanan]

You can conclude these are the preferred mechs of the FWL:

• Light: Wasp (not in MWO yet), Stinger (not in MWO yet) and Locust
  
• Medium: Wolverine and Hermes II (not in MWO yet)
  
• Heavy: Orion
  
• Assault: Awesome and Stalker

[dervishx5]

Official FWL mechs:

[Barantor]

Be nice if we could finally get the WVR-6M, WVR-7M and a few of our other missing mechs.