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[veedubfreak]

So....when are you guys going to unfork the Victor so it's a viable mech again?

My poor Dragonslayer has been collecting dust ever since the negative quirks got added as there are just way too many mechs that are better in every possible way.

Would also be kind of nice if the Orion was worth using again too.

[cSand]

Yea they should remove the negative quirks on the VTR at the very least

ON-1 is pretty decent these days, it has a lot of extra HP in the torsos and can take damage pretty well

[StonedVet]

At the same time as removing all clan mechs negative quirks sure.

[Bud Crue]

I still think the structure added to the BJ was intended for the Victor and thru some crazy machiavelian scheme they ended up on the wrong mech. Poor Vick. Alas, needs toughness buff and jj buff. Until then, the dust will thicken.

[OznerpaG]

what negative quirks?

[SgtMagor]

kind of hard to remove one of these from the Victor

[Slow and Decrepit]

Victor hasn't had the negative quirks for quite some time. In fact with this last quirk pass it got some really good quirks to help make up for the skill tree nerfs. It still needs ST help as it needs to run a XL to be worth a darn. I wish they would release the "A" variant, even if it obsoletes the other variants....

[Elizander]

The site is listing some things as negative like -30% jam chance.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Elizander, on 14 January 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

The site is listing some things as negative like -30% jam chance.

30% less of a bad thing is a good thing.

[Sorbic]

Lowridah, on 14 January 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

At the same time as removing all clan mechs negative quirks sure.

lol Clan mechs, well most any mech, eats the Victor for lunch.

[Slow and Decrepit]

Elizander, on 14 January 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

The site is listing some things as negative like -30% jam chance.

Where does it?

[Slow and Decrepit]

Elizander, on 14 January 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

The site is listing some things as negative like -30% jam chance.

What site?All Vic needs at this point is ST armor or structure, and some JJ help. Not this hover jet garbage. It would seem that the Devs are still afraid of that big 30 something alpha! In the meantime we have 50 plus alpha's that are hurting the TTK! Sometimes I just can't understand PGI's logic.

Edited by beleneagle, 18 January 2016 - 12:28 AM.

[TheCharlatan]

I 1v1'd a Victor in a frigging ADDER and won.
Poor Vik still needs help.
I read something on Twiter that made it look like PGI is thinking about rescaling it, that could help a lot.

[Charronn]

It certainly does need some love.Just make it equal to the Zeus and I would be happy.

[Bishop Steiner]

cSand, on 14 January 2016 - 02:08 PM, said:

Yea they should remove the negative quirks on the VTR at the very least

ON-1 is pretty decent these days, it has a lot of extra HP in the torsos and can take damage pretty well

they removed the negative quirks a long time ago.

The only thing remaining is the jump jet nerf, which is global, and that VTRs didn't get near the positive buffs a lot of mechs did.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 January 2016 - 01:28 AM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

TheCharlatan, on 18 January 2016 - 12:15 AM, said:

I 1v1'd a Victor in a frigging ADDER and won.
Poor Vik still needs help.
I read something on Twiter that made it look like PGI is thinking about rescaling it, that could help a lot.

I 1v1'd a dire wolf in my ac20 raven once. Anecdotal evidence isn't a great place to argue from.

[speleomaniac]

I have the Victors like one year, I still could not master them, the version I really like to use 9S for brawling, but without getting 2X it is not viable, you are not fast and maneuverable enough to get into brawling range.

The problem with dragon slayer 35 alpha is not really doing the job anymore and the gauss nerf is not really helping, 9B is a dakka boat and facetime with XL engine assault is not really good idea with today 50-60 alphas.

I really like to try the 9S but I don't know I have the necessary patience or not?

[TheCharlatan]

Narcissistic Martyr, on 18 January 2016 - 01:56 AM, said:

I 1v1'd a dire wolf in my ac20 raven once. Anecdotal evidence isn't a great place to argue from.

Fair enough.
Victors are still crappy though.

[Slow and Decrepit]

I wonder how an "A" variant would do in today's setting. I think it would have enough firepower to stand on it's own. The need for a XL engine is the Victor's weak point....

[Lorian Sunrider]

They are currently buffing the under preforming Clan mechs. I hope that they follow up and do the Inner Sphere's after.