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[LegendaryArticuno]

It's unwise to purchase any cash shop items until further notice. The CAD is currently 0.7 to the USD and it's unlikely to rebound anytime soon.

You're paying 30%+ on the exchange rate (vendors charge higher cuts) for any MWO products not listed on STEAM.

Considering PGI is a Canadian company, they could help by offering packages/new releases on STEAM or let their vendor accept payment in CAD.

[baba-yaga]

Yup. I bought the MAD package + hero, and it's the last time I spend money on this game. $78 CAD for an $55 USD package? Lol.. And as you mentioned, the CAD - USD conversion is worse now. So unless or until PGI accepts my CAD, they get nothing else from me.

[Moomtazz]

cinosa30, on 11 January 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

Yup. I bought the MAD package + hero, and it's the last time I spend money on this game. $78 CAD for an $55 USD package? Lol.. And as you mentioned, the CAD - USD conversion is worse now. So unless or until PGI accepts my CAD, they get nothing else from me.

What's the difference if they price it at $78 CAD? Or are you saying they should subsidize the price so that you pay $55 CAD but Americans still pay $55 USD? I don't understand these threads.

[Cion]

but if the exchange rate goes the other way (devalue USD, strenthen CAD) I'm guessing no one will complain to pay in CAD, but would love to pay in USD...

[stjobe]

Yeah, I don't get it either.

55 USD = 78 CAD
55 USD = 38 GBP
55 USD = 50 EUR

I bet the British would be pissed if they had to pay 55 GBP...

[pbiggz]

Did you only just notice this? We've been dealing with this for months. Thats why we're buying tickets for that powereball online, its 33% more valuable here.

[McValium]

you wont believe it but thats how currency exchange works^^ not everything in the world has prices adapted to local markets like steam. you wanna have mechpacks? you pay usdollars for it (in your local currencys equivalent). dollar-euro conversion has changed over the last 3 years too. thats just how it works.

selling everything through steam would be very unwise since steam takes around 35% cut out of every sale.

[Scout Derek]

pbiggz, on 11 January 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Did you only just notice this? We've been dealing with this for months. Thats why we're buying tickets for that powereball online, its 33% more valuable here.

Heh, try and get it all at once, and it's around 400-500 million I think?

[Bilbo]

Scout Derek, on 11 January 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

Heh, try and get it all at once, and it's around 400-500 million I think?

Either way you go, the government will get theirs. Personally I'd rather have the cash in hand than hope I live long enough for the annuity to be paid in full. Besides, who knows how bad taxes might be down the road.

[Scout Derek]

Bilbo, on 11 January 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

Either way you go, the government will get theirs. Personally I'd rather have the cash in hand than hope I live long enough for the annuity to be paid in full. Besides, who knows how bad taxes might be down the road.

Well, you know how that goes...

Think about how much you could do with the money though...

*Buys PGI and everything is redone*

[baba-yaga]

Moomtazz, on 11 January 2016 - 11:21 AM, said:

What's the difference if they price it at $78 CAD? Or are you saying they should subsidize the price so that you pay $55 CAD but Americans still pay $55 USD? I don't understand these threads.

In your case, there would BE no difference. I guess I should clarify, I won't be buying any more mech packs with the current prices, unless they were priced in CAD. $55 CAD for 4 (3 because in the case of the MAD's, the 3R is duplicated for no reason) mechs? Done. To me, that's fair. Not everyone will see it my way, which is fine.

PGI is a Canadian company, who are intentionally screwing their Canadian customers, so at the current time, I choose to vote with my wallet on their business practices.

[Grimlox]

Outside of the point that PGI is CDN and the bulk of their overhead is in CAD dollars such as all the wages they pay and their office costs yet they still want to charge in USD (Americans should be seeing price reductions) what really bothers me is the exchange rate we pay is even worse than the actual exchange rate because their store takes an extra 7%+ to cover the exchange.

PGI is in the same province I live in but not only do I have to pay USD but I have to pay extra for the CAD to get converted to USD for PGI to turn it around and pay their staff in CAD? If a new mech cost x hours of staff time which I'm sure hasn't gone up PGI now just skims the 30% difference in the dollar on all US customers and takes that 30% plus some oddball variable exchange fee around 7% to all CAD customers.

That is why Canadian customers aren't happy and would rather deal with steam

[Lostdragon]

pbiggz, on 11 January 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Did you only just notice this? We've been dealing with this for months. Thats why we're buying tickets for that powereball online, its 33% more valuable here.

A wise man once told me the lottery is a voluntary tax on the mathematically impaired.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

There are some south american countries which forced the gasoline industry to sell cheap to their people and make their cash off of exports.

They will probably see cash transactions from Canadian customers drop quite a bit. If all their prices were in CAD they would more than likely increase revenue despite a lower exchange rate, as more Americans and Euro players would pump cash into the game while maintaining a Canadian consumer base. Ah well.

Edited by xMADCATTERx, 11 January 2016 - 12:15 PM.

[Elizander]

Moomtazz, on 11 January 2016 - 11:21 AM, said:

What's the difference if they price it at $78 CAD? Or are you saying they should subsidize the price so that you pay $55 CAD but Americans still pay $55 USD? I don't understand these threads.

If only PGI would let me pay 55 Philippine Pesos instead of $55.

[HamAndRye]

cinosa30, on 11 January 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

PGI is a Canadian company, who are intentionally screwing their Canadian customers.

Currency exchange issues are not under PGI's control, and their pricing model is standard business practices. The mech packages are offered to all of MWO's player base for the same globalized value, but not currency.

Unless Mech Packages fall under the domain of Canadian Health Care, I don't think anyone is going to go for the "Whole Canadians Pay Less Then Everyone Else" bit you are pushing.

Edited by KosherBacon, 11 January 2016 - 12:34 PM.

[Pestilencio]

I often find myself willing to support free to play games with some cold hard cash. Given that it's a Canadian company and as a fellow canukian I wanted to spend some money on this game but when I saw the bill due to the conversion rate I hit the brakes and ended up making a much smaller purchase.

I suspect that the transactions are being managed by a third party company so there may not be much that Piranha can do about it.

[Bilbo]

Lostdragon, on 11 January 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

A wise man once told me the lottery is a voluntary tax on the mathematically impaired.

A reasonable assessment.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I think their baseline should be in CAD, since they're Canadian. But If they're charging 55 USD, that means the Canadians are spending 78 CAD, and if their expenditures are in CAD I guess it would makes sense from a business standpoint to peg their pricing to the US dollar.

Lostdragon, on 11 January 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

A wise man once told me the lottery is a voluntary tax on the mathematically impaired.

It's also called the Stupid Tax.

[Felicitatem Parco]

cinosa30, on 11 January 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

In your case, there would BE no difference. I guess I should clarify, I won't be buying any more mech packs with the current prices, unless they were priced in CAD. $55 CAD for 4 (3 because in the case of the MAD's, the 3R is duplicated for no reason) mechs? Done. To me, that's fair. Not everyone will see it my way, which is fine.

PGI is a Canadian company, who are intentionally screwing their Canadian customers, so at the current time, I choose to vote with my wallet on their business practices.

I would pe perfectly happy if they priced the Mech packs at $55 CAD! That would make them cost about $40 USD!

Good idea, I support a global reduction of Mech pack costs. That is what you are suggesting, right? Reducing the costs to the equivalent of $55 CAD?

...or, are you suggesting that MechPacks should cost 55 local currency units regardless of where you are located...? Should Russians be able to buy Mech packs at 55 rupies? Should Mexicans be able to buy packs at 55 pesos?

Because that would be silly... The number "55" came from a marketing analysis based on USD. If you wanted to, they could CONVERT the USD to Canadian... Oh wait, they did, and you don't like it.

Sorry, mate. Only a self-centered person thinks that the global financial market revolves around himself.