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[mogs01gt]

Queek Head Taker, on 17 January 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

This game needs to leave the windows enviroment. Mechwarrior moves to steam os I'm ditching windows in a heart beat! PGI support steam os lets get this over with.

umm what... isnt the Steam OS a failure?

[Pika]

Hmmm~

[Fester Blatz1980]

CapperDeluxe, on 19 January 2016 - 06:26 AM, said:

Sorry but it really won't ever be linux, Microsoft is leasing the mechwarrior video game rights to PGI and doesn't want it on anything other than Microsoft products.

Greedy SOBs.

Not true. Read my post regarding Battletech from HBS which will appear on MacOS and Linux, too.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Fester Blatz1980, on 19 January 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

Not true. Read my post regarding Battletech from HBS which will appear on MacOS and Linux, too.

Uh that's because unlike the title Mechwarrior. BATTLETECH isn't owned by MS

[Lorian Sunrider]

mogs01gt, on 19 January 2016 - 08:45 AM, said:

umm what... isnt the Steam OS a failure?

More or less.

If you want to make an argument for Linux, sure thats fine, but Steam OS isn't even remotely the best Linux version.

[Almond Brown]

Queek Head Taker, on 17 January 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

This game needs to leave the windows enviroment. Mechwarrior moves to steam os I'm ditching windows in a heart beat! PGI support steam os lets get this over with.

FYI. First name change is FREE. Take advantage ok.

[RockmachinE]

zagibu, on 18 January 2016 - 12:38 AM, said:

They would have to update to a newer version of Cryengine, first, which I don't see happening anytime soon at all.

[Revis Volek]

Steam OS is a fork of Debian, or GNU/LINUX.


So basically you are saying you want to move the game as a whole for some reason to a Linux OS? A Linux system that less then 2,000 of Steams games even run on?


No big name games run on Linux (No rockstar titles, Not any Bethesda titles hardly any real games at all) because not enough people use it for gaming and SteamOS is nothing special, it actually sounds terrible. Proprietary stuff from valve stuff hidden in an open source OS?


Not to mention Linux is OPEN SOURCE and that opens up issues all its own.

dumb.

Edited by DarthRevis, 19 January 2016 - 11:27 AM.

[Revis Volek]

Queek Head Taker, on 19 January 2016 - 08:18 PM, said:

if your reading this and your using windows 10..... you should shut down your computer unplug all the cords take your computer outside and throw it into the garbage. Windows 10 didn't make your computer garbage you the uneducated user did.



obviously from what you said means you have no clue as to what open source means and don't try to defend yourself cause you will look like more of a fool. I recommend you maybe do some research about computers hardware and software befor you try to communicate on the forums... ok mommy and daddy are gonna talk about important stuff now... go along and play.

Then please educate me oh great one, Why does windows and Mac OS, Android all these other companies even bother then?

Please educate me on the great GabeN and his trials and tribulations. Linux, Ubuntu and the fact that only if AMD or Nvidia decided to jump in on this crusaded would it even matter.

if you are so educated show me, tell me, do it! I'm not ready to jump to Linux, unstable and non user friendly as it can be hell even stable and wonderful. Not to mention what do we as a community loose by leaving Windows in the dust? And i dont think im alone in this endeavor.

OR be a troll.


PS whats stopping you from using you almighty education and superior computer skillz to get MWO to run on Linux with WINE?

I quick google search turned this up...

https://www.mechspec...-on-linux.7341/

Edited by Revis Volek, 19 January 2016 - 10:53 PM.

[Mechteric]

Revis Volek, on 19 January 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

Not to mention Linux is OPEN SOURCE and that opens up issues all its own.

It actually doesn't, there's plenty of closed source software in the linux world (e.g. Nvidia drivers, many Steam games).


The only real problem is that there aren't yet enough potential customers using it to warrant the money and time it would take to make it work in linux.


HOWEVER, if games are created from the beginning with Linux in mind (source engine, and many kickstarted games for example), it's probably not bad to work with (other than opening up more testing scenarios). It's usually much more difficult to convert after the game is "done" with development.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 20 January 2016 - 08:26 AM.

[Revis Volek]

CapperDeluxe, on 20 January 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

It actually doesn't, there's plenty of closed source software in the linux world (e.g. Nvidia drivers, many Steam games).


The only real problem is that there aren't yet enough potential customers using it to warrant the money and time it would take to make it work in linux.


HOWEVER, if games are created from the beginning with Linux in mind (source engine, and many kickstarted games for example), it's probably not bad to work with (other than opening up more testing scenarios). It's usually much more difficult to convert after the game is "done" with development.

People (and companies) get scared when they see Open Source. I dont get why but they do....I guess because they get to see your work (code) and any mistakes or silly things you did along the way. Its showing a lot more about your software. But that could be a good thing to when it comes to bugs, redundancy, etc.

And yes it is much harder to convert a finished game then to build from the ground up with something in mind. I mean people ARE and DO make games for it (linux). Ubuntu is a great thing and i have lots of fun making little emulator game boxes with buddies using it and some Raspberry Pi stuff from time to time.

I mean there are companies that do it. RSI is planning to release Star Citizen on linux but this whole LINUX IS THE NEXT GAMING CRAZE i think is a bit far fetched. Maybe they will prove me long but i feel like i heard all this before.

Edited by Revis Volek, 20 January 2016 - 11:08 AM.

[Peter2k]

Fester Blatz1980, on 19 January 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

Not true. Read my post regarding Battletech from HBS which will appear on MacOS and Linux, too.

Unity 5 can run on so much, hell it can run on BlackBerry10
no wonder it runs on Linux , are your hardware drivers up to snuff though?

any engine that supports OpenGL could run on linux, but what for?
drivers still tend to be worse

Revis Volek, on 20 January 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

People (and companies) get scared when they see Open Source. I dont get why but they do....

(licensing and) support maybe?
which is a huge deal for companies

Munich, Germany realizes that deploying Linux was a disaster, going back to Windows

also for average joe, iOS is a good thing since you can't mess with it, unless you actually know how to break it open, then you also know what you're doing
if I have to fix another family laptop just because someone was googling pr*n I go crazy
those family members should get an iPad instead

CapperDeluxe, on 19 January 2016 - 06:26 AM, said:

Sorry but it really won't ever be linux, Microsoft is leasing the mechwarrior video game rights to PGI and doesn't want it on anything other than Microsoft products.

Greedy SOBs.

this is sooo wrong
MWO = CryEngine
CryEngine = DX

no conspiracy anywhere

not sure Microsoft would even care about a niche Brand with all mechwarrior games rather failing in a niche gaming market when it comes to sales

Queek Head Taker, on 19 January 2016 - 12:01 AM, said:

wow you guys are very uneducated.

You guys obviously don't understand what's happening in the computer or gaming industry.

Keep your eyes closed it hurts less that way.

wonder if you know what you are talking about

you want to advance gaming on Linux, fine go ahead
Vulcan might be really nice
but SteamOS is hardly the best distro out there



I know things are a bit dated being from mid November
but

SteamOS gaming performs significantly worse than Windows, Ars analysis shows

Quote

Cross-platform 3D games face 21- to 58-percent frame rate dip on same hardware

I keep a very close eye on PC gaming

that's why I still am on my GTX780
because last year when AMD had HBM memory on their Fury Maxx, AMD and NVidia said they would sport second generation HBM on their cards in 2016 (and AMD already showed a prototype of their Polaris GPU running on stage)
up to 16GB, not just 4
and throughput has been doubled as well
combined with a manufacturing shrink that's been soo long overdue

did you know? Queek ?

I also have to think about queeg from Red Dwarf when I read Queek
funny
but we also have a Kryten and an Arnold Rimmer ingame, soo
sorry man

Edited by Peter2k, 20 January 2016 - 11:29 AM.

[Mechteric]

Peter2k, on 20 January 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

this is sooo wrong
MWO = CryEngine
CryEngine = DX

no conspiracy anywhere

not sure Microsoft would even care about a niche Brand with all mechwarrior games rather failing in a niche gaming market when it comes to sales

Crytek has been working on linux support for Cryengine for a bit now (first news of it in 2014), not sure if it's done or whatever, but that exercise I'll leave to you

http://www.cryengine...?f=328&t=121520


But as I said before it's a moot point, because Microsoft and because the effort it would take to add it to the game now would likely be substantial and not worth the squeeze (a.k.a. moneys). But I do look forward to a future where I can game in a linux desktop and not miss out on the games I want to play

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 20 January 2016 - 12:41 PM.