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#1 pupujuku

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 04:43 PM

So i set the setting to low but still it goes below 40fps
It feel like Low/Very high get me same FPS range.
i don't see the point of upgradeing the system cause game uses total of 60% from all sources

perating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
(it goes up to 4GHz some when boost is needed, never in MWO )
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Chip type: GeForce GTX 780
Dedicated Memory: 3013 MB

what can i do... i was thinking getin SLI but then again i dont even use this one 100% most of the times.
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Posted 18 January 2016 - 04:50 PM

Make some log files with MSI Afterburner and HWiNFO64, then veiw them with GenericLogViewer …

sys_budget_sysmem = 4096
sys_budget_videomem = 3072
sys_MaxFPS = 42
 
sys_budget_soundCPU = -1
for your user.cfg file, as a start.

#3 xWiredx

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 05:07 PM

Well, you should definitely be able to play above low settings. Part of this could be driver related, especially since some of the default-installed Win10 drivers are kind of wonky. Really, we would probably want to investigate things like control panel settings, heat, etc.

So, for starters, do you use any monitoring software for system performance (something that records CPU use, RAM use, VRAM, use, core temps for CPU+CPU, clock speeds, etc)? If so, let's see some graphs and numbers.

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 05:13 PM

View PostxWiredx, on 18 January 2016 - 05:07 PM, said:

Well, you should definitely be able to play above low settings. Part of this could be driver related, especially since some of the default-installed Win10 drivers are kind of wonky. Really, we would probably want to investigate things like control panel settings, heat, etc.

So, for starters, do you use any monitoring software for system performance (something that records CPU use, RAM use, VRAM, use, core temps for CPU+CPU, clock speeds, etc)? If so, let's see some graphs and numbers.


i play with very high setting but i Dropped it down to low just to get very smooth result for CW but it appears to still drop, ofc when i had very high the drop was to 20fps but with low it still vent under 40fps and doesnt even use the resources. big question remains that if there is 40% free to use like ram cpu gpu vram and what not why doesn't it use it when needed to keep fps from droping :S

I use MSI afterburner to monitor system

Im working on these logs not sure what do you wanna see and how to deliver it :D

Edited by pupujuku, 18 January 2016 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 06:29 PM

is it helpful if i upoad "HardwareMonitoring.hml"

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 07:08 PM

Are you playing 64bit or 32bit?

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 07:09 PM

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 07:22 PM

View Postpupujuku, on 18 January 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:


i play with very high setting but i Dropped it down to low just to get very smooth result for CW but it appears to still drop, ofc when i had very high the drop was to 20fps but with low it still vent under 40fps and doesnt even use the resources. big question remains that if there is 40% free to use like ram cpu gpu vram and what not why doesn't it use it when needed to keep fps from droping :S

I use MSI afterburner to monitor system

Im working on these logs not sure what do you wanna see and how to deliver it Posted Image

Well, the game is CPU-bound and doesn't take excellent advantage of tons of cores. An Ivy Bridge CPU under 4.5GhZ isn't going to handle the game well with particles, shadows, and environment set to very high. Those settings will need to be lowered. I suggest medium for those, and high/very high for the other settings. Yes, you will still dip down in fps sometimes, but it should be pretty minimal then.

The ultimate fix: move to a Skylake-based system, preferably with an unlocked K-series CPU and an AIO water cooler or beefy air cooler (like the higher-end Noctua ones).

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 07:41 PM

Moveing to K series CPU , doable . skylake-based , not so much.
Ill try going for 3770K for now and when i win with lottery ill go skylake Posted Image

Thanks
best awnser xWierdx : get a better cpu

Edited by pupujuku, 18 January 2016 - 07:43 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2016 - 08:02 PM

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i5-3470

Depending on motherboard, if you are able to locate a i5 3570k or i7-3770k, both ya be able to OC to to 4.0-4.2ghz with air cooling, may be 4.4ghz. Anything else would require at least both CPU and motherboard. Ebay prices range around $150ish for i5-3570k while i7-3770k is over $200+. Primary difference is i7 are hyper-threading, providing additional logical cores. Personally I would go for the i5-3570k.

I run my i5-3570k at 4.5ghz now after some bios adjustments, previously it was at 4.2ghz with a ATI HD7950 with no real tinkering. FPS limited to 80 in user.cfg. Dips in 55 range. Without fps limited, it would fluctuate at a high of 120-160fps with the few dips to 55fps. Settings are at med/high range.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 19 January 2016 - 09:27 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2016 - 08:01 AM

View Postpupujuku, on 18 January 2016 - 04:43 PM, said:

So i set the setting to low but still it goes below 40fps
It feel like Low/Very high get me same FPS range.
i don't see the point of upgradeing the system cause game uses total of 60% from all sources

perating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
(it goes up to 4GHz some when boost is needed, never in MWO )
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Chip type: GeForce GTX 780
Dedicated Memory: 3013 MB

what can i do... i was thinking getin SLI but then again i dont even use this one 100% most of the times.
ty
help ty



I'm having the same system
IvyBridge i5, boosting 4 Ghz, 16 GB, GTX780
Windows 10



some thingsPosted Image

MASSIVE FPS IMPROVEMENT THROUGH ENABLING HPET IN BIOS AND WIN10

changing power settings to maximum power
ingame AA is looking rather terrible for me, but costing a lot of fps
DX11 works better for me than DX9 (~40% better fps, well in testing grounds)

enable shader cache and threaded optimization in NVidia settings

Edited by Peter2k, 20 January 2016 - 08:01 AM.


#12 Peter2k

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 08:09 AM

View Postpupujuku, on 18 January 2016 - 07:41 PM, said:

Moveing to K series CPU , doable . skylake-based , not so much.
Ill try going for 3770K for now and when i win with lottery ill go skylake Posted Image


well if anything I wanted to get a pretested Skylake (tested for easy 4.8 Ghz overclock)
remove the heat spreader,
put on the new Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut thermal paste, and put an AiO Water cooler on (without the heat spreader), as long as I don't make a custom loop
and OC it to 5 Ghz Posted Image
some of those beautiful Raiden ROG RAM's, and an Samsung 850 M2 SSD


don't buy another GTX780 for SLI

new Cards fom NVidia and AMD are not that far off
with smaller manufacturing process (since 4 or so years) and high end cards will get HBM memory

Graphics cards with 1024GB/s bandwidth?





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