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[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 January 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

if I was calling for a fully underwater map, sure. I'm not, but it's funny how many comments seem to assume I am.

I'm certainly not. Just urging caution about how much has 100% "No Missiles Can Be Used Here" area. Like I said, some is fine, but you'd have to be veeeeery careful about that.

I'm pretty sure ballistics are unaffected by water, though (in terms of current game mechanics).

With that said, I've always wanted to see a thunderstorm at night version of Canyons, with all the lower areas flooded, thunder and lightening, torrential rain, etc

It'd be epic

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 22 January 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

I'm certainly not. Just urging caution about how much has 100% "No Missiles Can Be Used Here" area. Like I said, some is fine, but you'd have to be veeeeery careful about that.

I'm pretty sure ballistics are unaffected by water, though (in terms of current game mechanics).

With that said, I've always wanted to see a thunderstorm at night version of Canyons, with all the lower areas flooded, thunder and lightening, torrential rain, etc

It'd be epic

actually, I think ballistics explode on water too, but probably need to double check to be sure.

Also right now we have areas that LRms are essentially ineffective due to overhead cover, etc.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 22 January 2016 - 11:50 AM.

[Kh0rn]

http://imgur.com/a/5dtn1 A map like this. This is Sandblasted from MWLL set in a Egypt style dunes.

[1Grimbane]

CygnusX7, on 22 January 2016 - 09:51 AM, said:

bishop this is what i thought you meant .. totally underwater... even assaults. i want this so dang bad

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 January 2016 - 11:44 AM, said:

actually, I think ballistics explode on water too, but probably need to double check to be sure.

Also right now we have areas that LRms are essentially ineffective due to overhead cover, etc.

Essentially != literally unusable. I use LRM's in the tunnel in Crimson Straights all the time on my Clan mechs, too.

But the key is, its not "LRM's are useless" its ALL missiles. Total 100% protection from missiles (and maybe ballistics too).

Because it's not just disadvantaging the whole hardpoints class but actually rendering them 100% unusable, a tremendous amount of caution must be excersized.

[Roadkill]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 January 2016 - 11:44 AM, said:

actually, I think ballistics explode on water too, but probably need to double check to be sure.

I thought ballistics and lasers had a damage reduction. Is that just lasers (and, presumably, PPCs)?

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Also right now we have areas that LRms are essentially ineffective due to overhead cover, etc.

Sure, but they're relatively rare, which is Wintersdark's point. Having 100% cover here and there is okay. Having 100% cover over 80% of a flooded map would be bad.

[Solis Obscuri]

pbiggz, on 22 January 2016 - 07:01 AM, said:

I see your silly little french bay and raise you The Bay of Fundy between Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, the site of the most extreme tides in the entire world.

Reminds me of one of the campaigns in MW2 Mercs, Gravenhague, where there were all the deserts that had once been seas.

[Solis Obscuri]

Koorstag, on 22 January 2016 - 09:49 AM, said:

Just get a topo map of Glamis and make a map out of it. Should be easy

For some reason the Imperial Dunes reminds me of the motorcycle race from Fear and Loathing... Mint 400 is south of Vegas, though. Very different looking desert down there.