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[Zolaz]

The Warhammer is a Heavy and I'll rarely get to run it in Pug or Team queue. Heavies are always the most populated weight category for Pugs. When you are in a team you have to run more meta because of the Ghost Weight that teams have to carry.

I like that gunslinger PPC feel of the the Hammy. Hard to make it work on anything besides a Heavy or Assault. Well, maybe I can get some drops in it during prime time when the there are more matches going on.

[Troutmonkey]

Yep, same boat here. I love my Grasshoppers and am looking forward to playing Marauders when that come out for Cbills, but right now I limit myself to every not heavy as 50% heavy queue means long wait times. Good thing mediums are so fun to pilot

[VirtualSmitty]

Even with the heavy que so high I don't find the wait times bad. My problem is the only thing the Whammy is doing well is slaughtering my K/D ratio

[Lyoto Machida]

I never really notice a difference in wait times between queues unless it's real late at night. Games happen pretty quickly for me usually (within a minute).

[Bishop Steiner]

Zolaz, on 21 January 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

The Warhammer is a Heavy and I'll rarely get to run it in Pug or Team queue. Heavies are always the most populated weight category for Pugs. When you are in a team you have to run more meta because of the Ghost Weight that teams have to carry.

I like that gunslinger PPC feel of the the Hammy. Hard to make it work on anything besides a Heavy or Assault. Well, maybe I can get some drops in it during prime time when the there are more matches going on.

I never wait more than 30 seconds to use a heavy in Pug queue, even when it's heavily populated.

[Funkin Disher]

... is that you called it a Hammy.

Its a whammy, as in wallop. Not hammy, as in rodent.

[Christof Romulus]

Zolaz, on 21 January 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

The Warhammer is a Heavy and I'll rarely get to run it in Pug or Team queue. Heavies are always the most populated weight category for Pugs. When you are in a team you have to run more meta because of the Ghost Weight that teams have to carry.

I like that gunslinger PPC feel of the the Hammy. Hard to make it work on anything besides a Heavy or Assault. Well, maybe I can get some drops in it during prime time when the there are more matches going on.

Hahahahahaha! Ghost Weight - loving it!

[Cyborne Elemental]

Its a good ranger, not a good brawler.

When & IF PPC's ever get fixed/quirked/whatever back into being decent weapons, it might be better off.

Just don't throw yourself at your enemy and its actually a pretty good mech, plenty of variety and if you can get over the whole "Must have PPC's in the arms" baloney, it does quite well.
I look at it the same way I do as the Orion, paper tiger and maybe 1 tiny step up above it.
Time and time again, I get murdered in it because my team throws themselves at the enemy and gets slaughtered and I am then forced into massive focus fire all at once.

Edited by Mister D, 21 January 2016 - 05:04 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mister D, on 21 January 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

Its a good ranger, not a good brawler.

When & IF PPC's ever get fixed/quirked/whatever back into being decent weapons, it might be better off.

Just don't throw yourself at your enemy and its actually a pretty good mech, plenty of variety and if you can get over the whole "Must have PPC's in the arms" baloney, it does quite well.

I look at it the same way I do as the Orion, paper tiger and maybe 1 tiny step up above it.

Time and time again, I get murdered in it because my team throws themselves at the enemy and gets slaughtered and I am then forced into massive focus fire all at once.

Do wish it was a smidge tougher, TBH, as it really isn't designed to be able to use all the firepower at once in most cases..... but it is what it is.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 January 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

Do wish it was a smidge tougher, TBH, as it really isn't designed to be able to use all the firepower at once in most cases..... but it is what it is.

Bracket fire is necessary with PPCs due to the heat anyways so that's not entirely a bad thing. Still, as much as I love them, they don't really love me back all that much. I'm sure I could shove some LPL in there instead of PPC but then it just wouldn't be a warhammer anymore.

[Duke Nedo]

Feels like a Jager... married to a Phracct. A little lower hardpoints but with 5 extra tons.

[Moldur]

Which is why I got the marauder, saw the next unseen release, thought about how it was a heavy, realized all of the popular unseens were heavies, realized I'd end up having 12 IS heavies by the end of it, and then I went "naw."

The archer might be worth it for the cheese.

[Bishop Steiner]

Moldur, on 22 January 2016 - 02:03 AM, said:

Which is why I got the marauder, saw the next unseen release, thought about how it was a heavy, realized all of the popular unseens were heavies, realized I'd end up having 12 IS heavies by the end of it, and then I went "naw."

The archer might be worth it for the cheese.

am I seriously the only dude that doesn't get long waits even in heavies?

[Pariah Devalis]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 January 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:

am I seriously the only dude that doesn't get long waits even in heavies?

Been dropping with Heavies. Heavy queue is overloaded, but it tries to tonnage match, now, so it's all good. Most I had to wait was like... 5 minutes on search. Usually sub-60-seconds.

Day 4:
The Warhammers still have not noticed I am not one of them. As long as I move as they move, shoot like they shoot, surely my ruse will never be uncovered.
- Hellbringer Prime

[Bishop Steiner]

Pariah Devalis, on 22 January 2016 - 08:06 AM, said:

Been dropping with Heavies. Heavy queue is overloaded, but it tries to tonnage match, now, so it's all good. Most I had to wait was like... 5 minutes on search. Usually sub-60-seconds.

Day 4:
The Warhammers still have not noticed I am not one of them. As long as I move as they move, shoot like they shoot, surely my ruse will never be uncovered.
- Hellbringer Prime

since tuesday, I've had 2 waits I actually found notable? Both still well under 2 minutes, and the rest under 30 seconds with instant vote screen pretty common. Even when I was group dropping with LordRed for PhotoOps.

[MeiSooHaityu]

IDK, I still launch in my Marauders and it doesn't feel like I am waiting that long. I just take what I want to run

[CygnusX7]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 January 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:

am I seriously the only dude that doesn't get long waits even in heavies?

No you aren't. Might be more of us tier 3 under-dwellers but I rarely wait more than a minute.

[Trauglodyte]

Long wait times are mostly a product of limiting yourself to a single server on top of choosing a weight class that is very popular. I only run on the NA servers because I refuse to play with a 200+ variable ping. If I do that while trying to hop in my Whammy during peak hours, it can get kind of nasty.

As for the Whammy being "bad", I really think that people need to buy and hop in an Awesome to learn how to run it. With the Warhammer 6D, you can, while slightly blasphemous, put both PPCs in the right arm so that you can poke and pop. For the others, and including the 6D, you really need to imitate Leon from the opening sequence of "The Professional" (otherwise known as "Leon" in Europe). If you remember the movie, he bounced from location to location firing and killing in that manner. He never stopped, never camped, etc. With the Warhammer, you have to maximize your DPS potential while staying mobile. Also, the biggest thing that you need to learn is to use the Free Look (Left Control button) so that, when you torso twist away to spread damage, you Free Look your arms up so that they cover up more of your side torsos. The Whammy doesn't have good shield arms and the top portion of the side and center torsos stick out a good bit so you have to do what you can to protect them. At the end of the day, the Warhammer is a 10 ton lighter Awesome 8Q and it needs to be played with the same level of expertise and respect. Pop and move; don't poke and roll back.