35 replies to this topic

[Sandpit]

So I checked out the event page.

Is no one else concerned that this might set a new trend? I'm all for events that sometimes only "count" if done in quickplay as well as events that only "count" if you drop CW or whatever.

The thing I'm not "ok" with is setting up events where players who pay money are the only ones to get rewards.

You seriously get no rewards unless you spend cash to convert XP?

That's obviously not P2W, but it's a bad precedent to set.

[TercieI]

This is like how many other double XP weekends, but now they give you a bit of swag if you convert XP. I don't see a problem.

[Gas Guzzler]

Don't you get double XP just for playing?

[riverslq]

Gas Guzzler, on 04 February 2016 - 12:04 PM, said:

Don't you get double XP just for playing?

Shhhh...
Don't tell him that

[pbiggz]

You still get double XP, there's just conversion rewards now too. Its like past double XP weekends, plus some extra stuff. Im ok with extra stuff.

[SpiralFace]

Gas Guzzler, on 04 February 2016 - 12:04 PM, said:

Don't you get double XP just for playing?

Yes. Double XP weekends have ALWAYS meant that you get 2x xp in matches, and a discounted rate at converting from one to the other.

If you don't want to convert XP, you can still benefit from playing and getting the 2xp boost anyways. All the prizes are is just a little extra for something that used to not give you anything.

(I know you probably already know this Gas Guzzler, just posting it for everyone else.)

[sycocys]

Just waste all the free MC you've been stacking up. What's the big deal here?

[AlphaToaster]

There is enough MC obtainable absolutely free from past events as well as gaining faction ranks in CW. So a player doesn't have to spent a penny to benefit from this event. I think the last event, whatever it was I won about 2500ish mc from it. I think grab bags or something.

I think PGI is perfectly on track to have events that players who have invested benefit from. It adds value to those purchases.

No one is taking anything away from anyone. PGI is rewarding players who have contributed, and why shouldn't they reward people who are paying money for their game?

The idea that everyone deserves equally free stuff all the time is a more dangerous precedent to set imo. It creates whiners with a sense of entitlement.

[RoboPatton]

Half the event is dumb, sure. I mean, I never convert and the threshold is too high -- $ to MC for me to bother, but the 2x XP?? CMON MAN that's awesome.

[BLOOD WOLF]

I accidentally converted my mc before the event started. I mistook the event announcement for the start of the event. It was completely my fault, but I wasted 2000 mc

[Wrathful Scythe]

Am I missing something? It's double XP Weekend! You don't have to pay anything. Just ignore those little goals and level you mechs. I love double XP weekend... even if I have already mastered all mechs I wanted to master. :/

[Ratpoison]

The precedent they set is that if I buy things, they might give me free things down the line as a thank you, and even if I don't I will still get stuff(convenient how every post complaining about this ignores the free bits).

Seems like a great precedent to set if you ask me.

[XX Sulla XX]

I have no problem with it. Its good to reward people that make the game possible for ummm freeloader.

[Lyoto Machida]

Sandpit, on 04 February 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I checked out the event page.

Is no one else concerned that this might set a new trend? I'm all for events that sometimes only "count" if done in quickplay as well as events that only "count" if you drop CW or whatever.

The thing I'm not "ok" with is setting up events where players who pay money are the only ones to get rewards.

You seriously get no rewards unless you spend cash to convert XP?

That's obviously not P2W, but it's a bad precedent to set.

As your lawyer, I advise you to abstain from spending any MC in this event to convert GXP, in the hopes that PGI will see the error of their ways.

BLOOD WOLF, on 04 February 2016 - 12:23 PM, said:

I accidentally converted my mc before the event started. I mistook the event announcement for the start of the event. It was completely my fault, but I wasted 2000 mc

[Tyler Valentine]

The free, extra XP PGI gave me this weekend isn't good enough!

Dangerous precedent

[Felicitatem Parco]

Sandpit, on 04 February 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I checked out the event page.

Is no one else concerned that this might set a new trend? I'm all for events that sometimes only "count" if done in quickplay as well as events that only "count" if you drop CW or whatever.

The thing I'm not "ok" with is setting up events where players who pay money are the only ones to get rewards.

You seriously get no rewards unless you spend cash to convert XP?

That's obviously not P2W, but it's a bad precedent to set.

PGI gives away free MC during events. They've done it many times. Grab Bags, personal challenges, etc.

/thread

Edit: better reopen it before someone lies about the obvious. There is also free double XP for this event. No MC even needed to earn double XP.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 04 February 2016 - 02:32 PM.

[Sandpit]

Prosperity Park, on 04 February 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

PGI gives away free MC during events. They've done it many times. Grab Bags, personal challenges, etc.

/thread

Edit: better reopen it before someone lies about the obvious. There is also free double XP for this event. No MC even needed to earn double XP.

PGI playing to stuff for those that spend money during a free event is a slippery slope.

Double XP = fine
Giving away items that only those who spend $$ can ear? = slippery slope

Doing a giveaway or "loyalty reward" based on previous purchases is not the same as this example.

If they were giving away stuff to free players as well and just adding in an incentive to spend money during event? That's a different example altogether as well.

Now you can take what I've said (which is a very well worded response) to be a blanket response to all the "Ehr meh gerd! Sandpit has tinfoil now!"

Nowhere did I jump up and down, nowhere did I imply anything "evil" or "broken promises" or "P2W", I stated (twice now since so many on the forums seem to have a very severed reading comprehension issue apparelty ) that this is a disturbing trend. It is an area that is a VERY fine line of P2W.

Instead of wailing and flailing in outrage, I posted MY personal thoughts on it, have expanded upon it in this post, and explained the meaning behind the post so that PGI can see that I, as a customer and player of this game, and not comfortable with events like this. Then I stated the specific reasons why.

Now if even of you forumites have anything intelligible to say on that topic, please do so. The rest of you, just keep showing PGI why everyone thinks that forums are just a cesspool of trolls for the most part.

[Ultimax]

Sandpit, on 04 February 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I checked out the event page.

Is no one else concerned that this might set a new trend? I'm all for events that sometimes only "count" if done in quickplay as well as events that only "count" if you drop CW or whatever.

The thing I'm not "ok" with is setting up events where players who pay money are the only ones to get rewards.

You seriously get no rewards unless you spend cash to convert XP?

That's obviously not P2W, but it's a bad precedent to set.

You get double XP from matches?

That's the event, it's low key.

[Sandpit]

Ultimax, on 05 February 2016 - 07:31 PM, said:

You get double XP from matches?

That's the event, it's low key.

No, I'm talking about the rewards you get for converting the xp

[Chuanhao]

I couldnt begin to thank PGI enough for the series of events and sales.

1) cbill sale
2) double xp event to level up mechs bought during cbill sale
3) KMDD based event which resulted in less idiotic behaviour compared to kill, or kill assist events.
4) more rewards for those that pay to support the game
5) informative super long town hall session, after the very useful steam launch videos.
6) Kodiak

Thanks PGI

but could u release details of next mech pack please