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#1 Hit the Deck

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:23 AM

...or rather, Gauss+3LPL:

HGN-732B

Gauss+LPL (IS not Clan) combo is a surgical implement which will give you many kills. Your score won't be the greatest, however, because it's so efficient at dissecting enemy Mechs.

Obligatory screenshot:

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Around 100 damage per enemy killed - not bad IMO. That end match result totally represents what I normally get with the build, promise Posted Image

#2 Paigan

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:36 AM

meta Posted Image


Okay, on the actual topic:
- How many of those kills were solo kills?
- A single screenshot proves nothing. To show a trend, post ~100 of them (better ~1000) or leave it in the first place.

Edited by Paigan, 12 February 2016 - 06:39 AM.


#3 xMintaka

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:41 AM

View PostPaigan, on 12 February 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:


- How many of those kills were solo kills?



This. When looking for epeen stroke material, the number of solo kills/kill most damage dealt is more important than just the kill counter.

#4 Hit the Deck

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:44 AM

View PostPaigan, on 12 February 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

meta Posted Image


Okay, on the actual topic:
- How many of those kills were solo kills?
- A single screenshot proves nothing. To show a trend, post ~100 of them (better ~1000) or leave it in the first place.

You don't need statistics which are probably just lies. Just trust my words and what you see!

View PostLunatech, on 12 February 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

This.

no

Edited by Hit the Deck, 12 February 2016 - 06:45 AM.


#5 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:44 AM

Prefer the Heavy Metal with 3xLPL + Gauss/2xAC5 personally. Not really a fan of torso mounted lasers + arm mounted ballistics.

Heavy Metal with current quirks is really nice though.

Can HGN-IIC has those agility quirks too please? Not the structure or weapon ones, just the agility.

#6 Mcgral18

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:53 AM

I prefer the 2LPL 2 UAC5 HGN, the 733c


It vomits more damage out.

#7 Hit the Deck

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:54 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 12 February 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:

Prefer the Heavy Metal with 3xLPL + Gauss/2xAC5 personally. Not really a fan of torso mounted lasers + arm mounted ballistics.

Heavy Metal with current quirks is really nice though.

Can HGN-IIC has those agility quirks too please? Not the structure or weapon ones, just the agility.

I respect your choice but with the Heavy Metal you need to expose the whole Mech to shoot, also can't shave armor from the left arm. I think XL works here because the Mech only needs to expose half of its body in a short amount of time (because the weapons allow it).

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 07:01 AM

View PostHit the Deck, on 12 February 2016 - 06:54 AM, said:

I respect your choice but with the Heavy Metal you need to expose the whole Mech to shoot, also can't shave armor from the left arm. I think XL works here because the Mech only needs to expose half of its body in a short amount of time (because the weapons allow it).


Well, you can shave armour from both arms actually, because they get +20 armour quirks, and no one needs 80 armour on each arm.

#9 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 07:03 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 12 February 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:

Not really a fan of torso mounted lasers + arm mounted ballistics.


I don't understand you... that is like the golden configuration for me.

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 07:20 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 February 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:


I don't understand you... that is like the golden configuration for me.


Eh, to each their own. I tend to do better with torso ballistics, but everyone has a preference.

Centurion vs. Hunchback is a good trial case of such concepts since both mechs are decent performers and affordable places for new players to start. But one has the ballistics in the arm, the other in the torso, so it's a good way for players to learn which configuration they prefer.

#11 Wintersdark

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 07:25 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 February 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:


I don't understand you... that is like the golden configuration for me.

What I like with this is for a horizontally moving mech, you can frequently lead with the ballistic while your torso tracks the mech, allowing you to alpha with both weapon types and hit with both.

It sounds like it would be hard, but it's really not. It just... works. Well, at least with (u)AC5's.

#12 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 07:26 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 12 February 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:


I don't understand you... that is like the golden configuration for me.


I dont like using torso lasers with armlock off, and i dont like using arm mounted ballistics with armlock on...

Torso ballistics + arm lasers? fine
all torso? fine.
all arm? fine.

Its just personal preference - if i play a normal HGN ill put PPCs in the energy ports. HGN-IIC annoys me for this reason, but ERPPCs are far too heat intensive for their dmg to ever put them on an assault that slow, imo, so im forced to run LPLs in torso + UAC10s in the arm.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 12 February 2016 - 07:28 AM.


#13 Mister Blastman

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 07:27 AM

Meh. Classic PPCs + UAC5s for me. Damn jump jet heat... It can still powerlift if you play it right and don't get terribad pugs.


Edited by Mister Blastman, 12 February 2016 - 07:29 AM.


#14 DjPush

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 08:48 AM

Despite what many people think the Highlander is actually a decent mech. Players in this game gave it a bad rap because they couldn't poptart with it anymore when they nerfed JJ's. It's hard for the typical MWO player to find another purpose for a mech once it has the 'meta' stank on it. So people took their anger out on the mech and trashed it's rep while they moth balled the chassis.

It's a 90 ton mech with similar hard points to an Atlas. As a matter of fact the 733 can take the same load out as a D-DC.

1 Ac20
3 SRM6
2 Mlasers

The 733P has some decent Large Laser quirks. My fav load out for this variant is:

3 LLaser
3 SRM6

To me JJ's on an assault are more of a risk than benefit (one is good for getting over twigs and such). It takes time to get airborn, you're a sitting duck in the air, and when you land you have to accelerate again (which is painful in its' own right for assault mechs.). So I never bother with them on the Highlander.


It's nice to see a pilot take a liking to the Highlander. It's one of my favorites and I still play them to this day. Keep on stompin brosif and I'll see you on the battlefield!

Edited by DjPush, 12 February 2016 - 08:50 AM.


#15 Cyborne Elemental

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 09:13 AM

Call me crazy, but this scares me more.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...134bd952eea1522
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9fc38720f6b4042

Assaults need more JJ thrust too.

Edited by Mister D, 12 February 2016 - 09:24 AM.


#16 Alistair Winter

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 09:23 AM

Can't bring myself to equip gauss rifles on the Highlander. The snub-nosed barrel just looks too ugly. Gauss rifle looks awesome on the HGN IIC, but looks terrible on the HGN.

#17 Widowmaker1981

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 09:32 AM

View PostDjPush, on 12 February 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Despite what many people think the Highlander is actually a decent mech. Players in this game gave it a bad rap because they couldn't poptart with it anymore when they nerfed JJ's. It's hard for the typical MWO player to find another purpose for a mech once it has the 'meta' stank on it. So people took their anger out on the mech and trashed it's rep while they moth balled the chassis.



The HGN was a pretty bad mech until the skill tree nerf, at which point they gave it insane agility buffs so its now actually MORE agile than it was before the skill trees got giganerfed. That has changed its place in the lineup somewhat :P

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 10:14 AM

View PostWidowmaker1981, on 12 February 2016 - 07:26 AM, said:


I dont like using torso lasers with armlock off, and i dont like using arm mounted ballistics with armlock on...

Torso ballistics + arm lasers? fine
all torso? fine.
all arm? fine.

Its just personal preference - if i play a normal HGN ill put PPCs in the energy ports. HGN-IIC annoys me for this reason, but ERPPCs are far too heat intensive for their dmg to ever put them on an assault that slow, imo, so im forced to run LPLs in torso + UAC10s in the arm.


How funny. I prefer arm lock off with lasers in the torso and ballistics in the arm. The torso reticle is steady and smooth while I can make quicker snapshots with the arm.

I will do all in the torso as well, that's not bad, but my least favorite is lasers in the arms with a ballistic in the torso, it feels so wrong to me for some reason. Its player preference obviously, but that is funny because that is one of the reasons I'm not completely sold on the Kodiak.

#19 Mechteric

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 10:23 AM

The Highlander will stay the Lowlander so long as the jump jets on the thing are so slow and pathetic.

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 10:37 AM

View PostPaigan, on 12 February 2016 - 06:36 AM, said:

Okay, on the actual topic:
- How many of those kills were solo kills?
- A single screenshot proves nothing. To show a trend, post ~100 of them (better ~1000) or leave it in the first place.

Don't be to harsh. He is pleased. Rejoice with him.





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