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[Manthor]

I use an Nvidia GTX 550 TI in a I7-2600k. Win 7 & 8GB ram. I play at full 1080p on high settings no worries. frame rates can drop to 25 in a fight, but otherwise are fine.

maybe find a second hand I7 ??

[o0Marduk0o]

Why is it no option to save some money? MW3&4 probably look better than MWO with ultra-low-res. How is this fun for your dad?

[Oldmanv]

I'll just put my 2 cents about integrated play.

So, i started with 3570k (intel HD4000) and had about 20fps at one channel ram - lowest settings @ 1366*768.
Then i got i5-3330 with GTX650 - same resolution but mid-high settings gave me 50-55 fps. this was the best perfomance.
Now i'm at AMD APU a10-7800 with two-channel ram (not even high speed, just 1333) and i have 30ish fps with everything low but effects and particles on med-high (can't remember, but love LRM smoke and that great PPC effects). And still it struggles and can fall to 20ish in CW.
So i plan to get a 2400-2133 ram to have high 40 fps and not so dramatic freezes.


If only i knew everything i know now - i'd just get 2 sticks or any ram, any i5 processor and ANY GTX card, even the X50 (650, 750, 950 - any) one.

[ShinobiHunter]

o0Marduk0o, on 14 February 2016 - 11:19 PM, said:

Why is it no option to save some money? MW3&4 probably look better than MWO with ultra-low-res. How is this fun for your dad?

They just don't want to pay more than this. MWO is a secondary concern for them, this PC's main job is going to be some internet surfing, picture storage and candy crush-type games. She can buy something for that pre-made at Staples for 400, so I figured I would try to build them something better for the same.

My mum was happy with her 10 year Compaq with an AMD Athlon QL-62 and Vista, until it got a virus and now takes ten minutes to start

[ShinobiHunter]

Oldmanv, on 14 February 2016 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'll just put my 2 cents about integrated play.

So, i started with 3570k (intel HD4000) and had about 20fps at one channel ram - lowest settings @ 1366*768.
Then i got i5-3330 with GTX650 - same resolution but mid-high settings gave me 50-55 fps. this was the best perfomance.
Now i'm at AMD APU a10-7800 with two-channel ram (not even high speed, just 1333) and i have 30ish fps with everything low but effects and particles on med-high (can't remember, but love LRM smoke and that great PPC effects). And still it struggles and can fall to 20ish in CW.
So i plan to get a 2400-2133 ram to have high 40 fps and not so dramatic freezes.


If only i knew everything i know now - i'd just get 2 sticks or any ram, any i5 processor and ANY GTX card, even the X50 (650, 750, 950 - any) one.

Sounds like it was at least playable on the integrated graphics then? An i5 is way out of budget. I actually planned to upgrade my pc to a 4690k and a good mobo, and give them my fx6300. Unfortunately, my free cash evaporated when my WRX decided to kiss an SUV

[Goose]

ShinobiHunter, on 15 February 2016 - 06:42 AM, said:

… picture storage …

http://pcpartpicker....-drive-hdkpc08/

[2fast2stompy]

HD530 runs MWO at 20-25 fps on most maps on 1280x800 and low settings.
Dips below 20 on caustic, when looking at some walls on mining collective and in the tunnel on crimson.
30+ on snow maps.

It's not pretty, it's harder to keep up with your target because of the low fps, and the low resolution actually makes it hard to see a giant robot at times.

[latinisator]

Intel HD will run it. My notebook (HP Probook 6360b, i5 2410m, 8 GB RAM dual channel DDR3) I got for work gets around 20 fps @ 1024x768 and low graphic settings. Dual channel really was a boost.

As somebody suggested: buy an used PC / notebook. Got the above on ebay for 250 €, OS inclusive. Added 4 GB of RAM for 20 € (used RAM).
So anything better than this will run MWO okayish.

Edited by latinisator, 15 February 2016 - 11:14 AM.

[cSand]

I would without a doubt go with something like an AMD A10-7870k APU, pair it the fastest dual-channel RAM (go for 2x4gb sticks not 1x8GB) you can afford it should at least perform better than an Intel with iGPU you will get for the same (or more) $$.. that would be my recommendation.

The AMD APUs are not the same chips as the FX and don't suffer the same issues that some FX chips have with this game. For price to value you'll get way more bang for the $$ going AMD in this case,

Hell my friend bought a $500 HP computer that had a AMD A8 APu and I think it was a R7 240 card, being crossfired with the APU graphics.. was running Guildwars 2 on high settings @ 1080p just fine.

Edited by cSand, 15 February 2016 - 04:49 PM.

[ShinobiHunter]

I appreciate the replies everyone. I found a FX 8320E/ASRock 990 mobo deal for $160, so I'm going to pick that up for myself and give my parents my 6300/970 set. That will free up enough budget to get a dedicated graphics card.

Now I just need to make the hour and a half trip to Micro Center

[Tarogato]

ShinobiHunter, on 15 February 2016 - 06:42 AM, said:

My mum was happy with her 10 year Compaq with an AMD Athlon QL-62 and Vista, until it got a virus and now takes ten minutes to start

Backup any important data to an external storage and then do a fresh install of windows.

[CMetz]

If you have a micro center near you, you can get this build $48 cheaper due to their PC/Mobo combos. Gets it right in your price range, and you should be able to play the game on med-high settings.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yYnMBm

Basically-
AMD FX-6300
Asus 760 USB3 Mobo
GTX 750ti

The PSU is a corsair 430 watt, but that can probably even be upgraded within the budget... it is the CX series, however...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($20.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Enthusiast Edition Video Card ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Total: $443.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-16 02:37 EST-0500

Edited by CMetz, 15 February 2016 - 11:37 PM.

[Oldmanv]

ShinobiHunter, on 15 February 2016 - 07:48 AM, said:

Sounds like it was at least playable on the integrated graphics then? An i5 is way out of budget. I actually planned to upgrade my pc to a 4690k and a good mobo, and give them my fx6300. Unfortunately, my free cash evaporated when my WRX decided to kiss an SUV

It is pain on intel iGPU, totally OK @ amd A10 and the best - on nvidia gtx, but in last scenario i cant comment on cpu, heard somwhere MWO is demanding.
If you give fx6300 i think r250 will be enough. Should be.

___
Edit - wow, i'm slow

Edited by Oldmanv, 16 February 2016 - 12:40 AM.

[o0Marduk0o]

CMetz, on 15 February 2016 - 11:34 PM, said:

If you have a micro center near you, you can get this build $48 cheaper due to their PC/Mobo combos. Gets it right in your price range, and you should be able to play the game on med-high settings.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yYnMBm

Basically-
AMD FX-6300
Asus 760 USB3 Mobo
GTX 750ti

The PSU is a corsair 430 watt, but that can probably even be upgraded within the budget... it is the CX series, however...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($20.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Enthusiast Edition Video Card ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($87.95 @ OutletPC)
Total: $443.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-16 02:37 EST-0500

No other than stock cpu cooler? I assume noise is irrelevant for them.

Edited by o0Marduk0o, 17 February 2016 - 10:39 PM.

[ShinobiHunter]

All told the trip to Micro Center took me 5 hours, but it was well worth it, especially since I'm also building a friend a gaming PC. I got 2 8320E's, 2 990FX motherboards, 2 1TB WD Harddrives, a case with 2 extra fans, a wifi adapter, a 500w PSU, a Giga R7 360 and some other odds and ends for under $800. And that's before rebates

But I have another question for you all: Is there any reason to buy Windows 8.1 over 7? I can get 7 Premium 64bit for half the price of 8.1, and I personally prefer 7. I don't see any compatibility issues, but I'm still a little nervous I'm overlooking something...

[smokefield]

i have played mwo on an i5 and the integrated graphic, 8gb ram at low resolution and almost everything on low too with 20-25fps. playable but not worth the effort.

[Goose]

ShinobiHunter, on 18 February 2016 - 09:54 AM, said:

But I have another question for you all: Is there any reason to buy Windows 8.1 over 7? I can get 7 Premium 64bit for half the price of 8.1…

At half the price? You buy 7.

Yeah: There where improvements, but really you could do the one's I'm thinking of manually. And, if you where going to 10, anyways …

[Lord Letto]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($66.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill AEGIS 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($23.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 740 1GB Superclocked Video Card ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $400.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-20 03:47 EST-0500