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[Rkshz]

h1 guyz
I'm interested the question:

I can not understand, why are not punished for the suicide and team damage?
1. Why for suicide should be punished?
- every game I can see how players include "Override Shutdown" and they die from overheating
- sometimes I see players specifically break their legs and die
- and sometimes players are specially run abroad maps and die
= they all do it so as not to give the enemy frag - they do it because they are not punished
*** my opinion is that for such acts should be punished and fined for money and experience points and match scores!

2. Why for team damage should be punished?
- every game I can see how the players do not look where shooting and they often shoot at his team
- It is often used by his team to artillery or air strike
- sometimes I see players specially shot in the back of his team for fun
- sometimes I see players specifically firing at the legs of his team at the start of the game
= they do it because it is not attentive or especially - they do it because they are not punished
*** my opinion is that for such acts should be punished and fined for money and experience points and match scores!

What do you think about it?

[DarkMetalBlade]

For point #1, I'd just like to give you this news flash: there already are punishments for suicide, in which you do it excessively, you pay the ultimate price: having your ability to play this game (on one's account) taken away from you.

[MerryIguana]

Rakshaz, on 14 February 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

- every game I can see how players include "Override Shutdown" and they die from overheating

Legit.

[SQW]

You can't prevent idiocy with threats of punishment.

Best you can do is report the moron and hope there's enough ticket against him to warrant a ban later on. Thankfully, no mentally ******** is going to spend all his time trolling one single game so just count yourself unlucky and queue up for next game.

[CreativeAnarchy]

DarkMetalBlade, on 14 February 2016 - 03:42 PM, said:

For point #1, I'd just like to give you this news flash: there already are punishments for suicide, in which you do it excessively, you pay the ultimate price: having your ability to play this game (on one's account) taken away from you.

I will suicide if I'm the last one standing and getting pounded on by the rest of the other team if there are more than 2 and I'm already heavily damaged.

I've also done it by accident when I forget to turn off the override.

How many suicides does it take to hit that threshold? Is it so many in a row or just an accumulated number?

[Xetelian]

Blowing up because of MASC chewing up your legs or because of Override taking out a critical spot shouldn't be punished.

Running out of bounds is a little different but not worth spending time making a punishment for it

Team damage is usually unintentional and people who teamkill for fun don't earn any cBills or exp any way

I'm in tier 3, I play against almost every tier of enemy and teammate and I rarely ever see a team killer and suicides are usually from override which is a function of the game

[STEF_]

I don't know if this is related to recent Valentine challenge... but.... since I've "been forced" to play quick drops by PGI, I can assure you I've seen the worst lame/dog tier behaviours, made of suiciding, team damaging, team killing.

I completed the challenge, and now I'm really happy to play group que with my friends again.

[White Bear 84]

1. Report players for any infingements above. But bewares, if a player overheats and dies while trying to take down as many mechs as possible, then #noregrets.

2. Players are penalised for team kills.

Simples.

[Kyynele]

I think there's quite a bit of a difference between overriding and going down guns blazing trying to deal as much damage as you can in a hopeless situation, and hiding in a hole firing lasers to a wall until you die.

Personally, I applaud the former and report the latter.

[Wintersdark]

White Bear 84, on 14 February 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

1. Report players for any infingements above. But bewares, if a player overheats and dies while trying to take down as many mechs as possible, then #noregrets.

2. Players are penalised for team kills.

Simples.

Overriding and dying in a blaze of glory trying to take someone down is perfectly legit, even if you KNOW it'll kill you. You are still fighting.

Hiding in a corner, overriding and overheating to death isn't, and is also the sign of a truly pathetic individual.

Regardless, keep in mind: your team will still get relevant bonuses at match end as a result, like Assists and Kill: Most Damage Dealt.

[Eboli]

Well, I have an imposed 1,000,000 CBill penalty for a TK and 50,000 CBill penalty for every 30 points worth of team damage. Monies paid into Unit's coffers. 50,000 for swearing while on comms as well.

I don't TK (accidental) much at all but FF can occur a bit - especially when people walk into your field of fire...

Purely an optional choice on my behalf but it does add a bit of fun factor to it.

Cheers!
Eboli

[Escef]

I overheat to death a lot. Not on purpose, either. But I'd rather overheat to death than shutdown and effectively be killed in my sleep. If I'm going to drop, I'm going down swinging.

[InspectorG]

Report > non-participation. Let PGI deal.

Death via Overheat is only good if its en route to Valhalla.

[Troutmonkey]

If I'm surrounded and have no chance of survival, I will hit override and go down guns blazing. You'll never take me alive!

That said, my success ratio is about 50/50 with 50% hitting override and 50% accidentally hitting shutdown and dying without doing anything :/

[Cabusha]

Considering Sean Lang headshots himself all the time through overrides, and he posts his videos on MWOs channel, I doubt things will change.

[Ace Selin]

This is perfectly;y legit.

Kyynele, on 14 February 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

overriding and going down guns blazing trying to deal as much damage as you can in a hopeless situation

Happened today where in a Black Knight i was pretty cored and already running real hot and came around a corner to face a Timberwolf with SRMs, i hit override wanting to do as much damage before he killed me. I Alphad and reversed to the corner, he only got my arm with SRMs and then he started rounding the corner, where again i hit override and Alphad and I killed him as i shut down still cooking my armour and components off. Many times you die doing that though, but for me its the way to go when faced with uneven odds.

[Mech Jager]

^^^ See above

I can easily get an extra 100 damage and possibly a kill while in over ride mode. The second I see more than 2 red doritos attacking and I know my team is down by 3-4 I am in over ride mode. This also keeps my targets info on the remaining team mates radar.

The sad thing is how little damage you take while over riding versus the damage you take while shut down in front of 2 or more enemy mechs.

[JediPanther]

I usually try not to override and blow myself up. like those above I'm going for one last shot against overwhelming enemy. Most of the time when I do over ride and die it's because I use it as a trick to re power on my mech from shut down faster than letting it cool by itself or by using the power on/off of the p key.

Intentional team killers should be punished even though I have a fair share of team killing myself. While pgi says to just report and forget that's great after a match. Not so great while you have an ashat actively killing your team. I will team kill any such ashat in order to save what I can of the team and fight on the rest of the match. No sense letting a di ck kill half a lance or more when you can stop him both in the match and after by giving the screen captures and video recordings if you got them to pgi to get the di ck baned.

[Malachy Karrde]

I don't think I have played many matches where I don't have a couple points of team damage. There is always some overeager idiot who crosses between the whale and my intended target after I have already fired. Team damage penalties are stupid for just this reason.

[stocky0904]

A few days ago on River City:

My team had 2 really battered nearly dead mechs (Medium and Heavy) left. Red CTs, missing arms and so on. Red Team had one Cataphract (2X i think) left. This Cata was not untouched but in a really better condition. At this time he was in the tunnel out of reach for our mechs. I thought that we would lose the match because after 2 shots both of our mechs would be down. And he was at a good defendable place.

The next thing i saw was that this Cataphract commited suicide and killed himself in an unknown way down in the tunnel.

Again thx from me. LOL