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[MechPorn]

Great Teacher Onizuka, on 16 February 2016 - 06:49 PM, said:

Well came back to the game after like 3 months. Things have to have gotten better. Right? Yeahhhhh..... Not a chance. first drop. teammate blew off my left torso then another legged me. whatever. must be pugs.

Maybe if you put armor in them there things...this wouldn't happen...I know, I know...don't tell you how to play...just consider it friendly advise.

Great Teacher Onizuka, on 16 February 2016 - 06:49 PM, said:

2nd match tried LRMS. sorta like slapping my **** upside a brick wall. No point.

Uhmmm...shooting walls and shooting your wad on walls, generally have the same end result...a hurt ego. I would suggest that you get locks, understand the missile arc (so your not bruising your ego and **** at the time). This is simple basic stuff that you must not have learned from your first go at the game.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can get a new dog.

[Charronn]

Wolfways, on 17 February 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

While using a weapon that is supposed to be usable out to 1000m...
You can use LRM's at their max range in MWLL because the fighting is on battlefields instead of arenas, so matches aren't just poke>hide, popup>hide, etc.
MWO maps is why LRM's join the MG and flamer as the worst weapon trio.


Sorry, I already just about ignore LRM's in matches because the few that do manage to hit me do very little damage.


Putting terrain between you and the enemy so you cannot be hit.


Mainly Eclipse but had a few chars here and there.

Had my own guild on Ahazi PHX.Oh the drama.Ended up moving to Starsider then to Farstar where I was gl of Motley Crew till the servers shut.
Played for about 7 years maybe more,elder jedi and all that shite.Still miss it tbh,nothing quite like the old SWG.

[Escef]

Wolfways, on 17 February 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

Putting terrain between you and the enemy so you cannot be hit.

Very good. And since LRMs arc in their flight, most of the hills offer all of zero cover against them. Very little of the terrain is steep enough to park a mech behind and have the ground absorb the missiles. Plenty of gullies to break line of sight with, but those don't offer any actual cover against LRMs. A cagey spotter, NARC, UAV, what have you, can utterly ruin your day.

I don' know what map you think is Polar Highlands where there is abundant LRM cover. Perhaps you have it confused with Crimson Straight or River City?

[Troutmonkey]

Alistair Winter, on 17 February 2016 - 07:53 AM, said:

Can anyone confirm that OP is in fact a great teacher?

He's ursurped the name of a truly great master, and has instead brought it shame

[Wolfways]

Escef, on 17 February 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Very good. And since LRMs arc in their flight, most of the hills offer all of zero cover against them. Very little of the terrain is steep enough to park a mech behind and have the ground absorb the missiles. Plenty of gullies to break line of sight with, but those don't offer any actual cover against LRMs. A cagey spotter, NARC, UAV, what have you, can utterly ruin your day.

I don' know what map you think is Polar Highlands where there is abundant LRM cover. Perhaps you have it confused with Crimson Straight or River City?

The firing mech still needs a target to lock onto.
Shoot at spotters. Shoot down UAV's. Not sure if powering down works against NARC...
I don't see how losing a few points of armour ruins your day though.

As for Polar, the whole map is ditches. You move into one and the firer loses lock. I suppose this works even better if you have Radar Derp module/ECM (don't know because I don't use them).

In the end you're still complaining about a weapon that is easy to counter and does very little damage which is spread across your mech.

[Great Teacher Onizuka]

well actually I should have been clearer.

PGI does not encourage team play. Look at how score is calculated and as for LURMS. was smacking the **** out of a mech standing in the open on polar and I was doing so little damage I might as well have been slapping my **** on it.

[Escef]

Wolfways, on 17 February 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

The firing mech still needs a target to lock onto.

I already talked about this. I don't need your diatribe.

Wolfways, on 17 February 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

In the end you're still complaining about a weapon that is easy to counter and does very little damage which is spread across your mech.

I was complaining about it? Where? I missed that part. It must be the part that wasn't there and you mentally filled in simply because I disagree with your horribly flawed assessment of Polar having a lot of cover that is relevant to LRMs.

Some people's children, I swear.

[Tarogato]

Great Teacher Onizuka, on 17 February 2016 - 06:28 PM, said:

well actually I should have been clearer.

PGI does not encourage team play. Look at how score is calculated and as for LURMS. was smacking the **** out of a mech standing in the open on polar and I was doing so little damage I might as well have been slapping my **** on it.

I don't follow how you figure that PGI does not encourage "team play". Playing as individuals in this game is usually the easiest way to get rek't and utterly roflstomped.

Also, LRMs are terrible. That's why you shouldn't use them. They spread damage and they have copious amounts of hard counters in the game. The work well one in five matches, and are practically dead weight the rest of the time. What mechs have you been running and what have you been trying to do with them?

Edited by Tarogato, 17 February 2016 - 07:32 PM.

[Wolfways]

Escef, on 17 February 2016 - 06:41 PM, said:

I already talked about this. I don't need your diatribe.



I was complaining about it? Where? I missed that part. It must be the part that wasn't there and you mentally filled in simply because I disagree with your horribly flawed assessment of Polar having a lot of cover that is relevant to LRMs.

Some people's children, I swear.

So you weren't complaining about Polar not having cover from LRM's?

Seems like you don't like someone not agreeing with you so you just resort to childish insults (or am I imagining that too?)

Here's something to think about then. If Polar is so LRM friendly why do I and many other players not have any problem with them? I don't use ECM, AMS, or Radar Derp, but if LRM's are so effective I should be taking loads of damage every time I play on that map (and I vote for it every time it comes up).
Just because you can't find cover doesn't mean that better players can't (and I'm not even a good player).

Edited by Wolfways, 17 February 2016 - 09:55 PM.

[Escef]

Wolfways, on 17 February 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

So you weren't complaining about Polar not having cover from LRM's?

...

Just because you can't find cover doesn't mean that better players can't (and I'm not even a good player).

No, I'm not complaining about poor LRM cover in Polar. I think it's a good thing. Just because you are seriously wrong about the amount of cover on the map and I've apparently committed the unforgivable sin of pointing it out, does not mean I have any more or less problems with LRMs than anyone else. And that's without using Radar Deprivation (I find Seismic to be useful overall, and if I haven't mastered out a mech I take it over Dep every time).