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[Ghostmaker]

There is a plague of laser-boating light mechs.

[FupDup]

1. There is no "plague" of light mechs in general simply because the weight class is very underrepresented in the queue waiting lines.

2. Ballistics require too much tonnage to boat or even use normally on light mechs without making extreme sacrifices such as tiny engines.

3. Missiles aren't that great of a choice for lights because of their tonnage (LRMs) or just not being particularly powerful to begin with (all missiles). Only the Oxide and Jenner IIC can make truly good use of missiles in the light class, with one of those being superquirked (may be nerfed) and the other is very fragile.

4. Lasers require low tonnage. Light mechs have low tonnage to spend on equipment. Do the math.

5. If you're going to complain about lights, can you at least have the dignity to make your original post longer than 9 words?

Edited by FupDup, 04 February 2016 - 09:02 AM.

[thehiddenedge]

Damn them for not all using AC20's like the urbie!

Edited by thehiddenedge, 04 February 2016 - 09:07 AM.

[NextGame]

Looks like someone got killed by a light mech

[Bud Crue]

I agree with the OP sort of...

In the sense that so many light mechs just feel indistinct, since after all the only viable weapons for most is a bunch of medium lasers, etc. it seems that yes there are a lot of lights that have very similar play styles and similar energy loadouts.

That said, quirks (especially hard point specific quirks) could have gone a long way to making them feel and play differently and to encourage more distinctive builds other than just sticking a bunch of MLs on them. Thanks to unrelated whining, the across the board 10% energy range nerf/buff that Russ recently mentioned at the townhall will make these mechs feel even less distinct (I'm looking at you 35 ton IS mechs).

[TercieI]

The heavy mech plague seems like a more significant issue.

[FupDup]

Bud Crue, on 04 February 2016 - 09:10 AM, said:

That said, quirks (especially hard point specific quirks) could have gone a long way to making them feel and play differently and to encourage more distinctive builds other than just sticking a bunch of MLs on them. Thanks to unrelated whining, the across the board 10% energy range nerf/buff that Russ recently mentioned at the townhall will make these mechs feel even less distinct (I'm looking at you 35 ton IS mechs).

WTB ballistic cooldown quirks of actually significant values on ballistic lights*...

That, and MG quirks that for some odd reason are completely extinct from the game now.

While we're at it, give a few lights some LRM quirks just for hilarity.

*Cough Urbanmech cough Panther 10P cough cough*

Edited by FupDup, 04 February 2016 - 09:13 AM.

[Lord0fHats]

TercieI, on 04 February 2016 - 09:12 AM, said:

The heavy mech plague seems like a more significant issue.

Yeah. Surprised people are complaining about a plague of lights when two thirds of the que is heavies and assaults. I suspect someone didn't pay attention to their surroundings and got cored in the back by a swarm

[Juodas Varnas]

Buff MGs and Flamers to viability and BOOM!
Lights using weapons other than Medium laser or Small Pulse!

Though, i am the guy that runs his Urbanmechs with Autocannons like they're supposed to be run, so don't listen to me.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 04 February 2016 - 09:36 AM.

[Kodyn]

I see plagues of lights in Group queue, but that's due to many higher-tier groups organizing light packs to make up for tonnage restrictions. It's either that, or all BJs and Stormies. If the tonnage was higher, we'd see all clan heavies and Quickdraws.

I don't always light, myself, but when I do, half the time it's in an AC/10 Panther...Not good for keeping higher tier, but fun. Want to get my tier back up? I switch to laser-boats for easy mode.

[sycocys]

Ghostmaker, on 04 February 2016 - 08:56 AM, said:

There is a plague of laser-boating light mechs.

I guess that means its time for players to learn how to shoot a moving target then isn't it?

[Mystere]

Ghostmaker, on 04 February 2016 - 08:56 AM, said:

There is a plague of laser-boating light heavy mechs.

FTFY.

Edited by Mystere, 04 February 2016 - 10:49 AM.

[HamAndRye]

Ghostmaker, on 04 February 2016 - 08:56 AM, said:

There is a plague of posters who come to the forums with stupid things to say.

Updated your quote to be more accurate.

If you piloted lights, you would understand you have very little tonnage to devote to weapons. Lasers are a natural fit.

Edited by HamAndRye, 04 February 2016 - 10:56 AM.

[Johnny Z]

Yep swarms of Arctic Cheddar to be precise. They are easily the most numerous light mech and still very strong. Worste mech to face in many mechs though is a Clan streak boat.

[Black Rabbit of Inle]

Juodas Varnas, on 04 February 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

Though, i am the guy that runs his Urbanmechs with Autocannons like they're supposed to be run, so don't listen to me.

Wow wow whoa I thought it was invalid build if you try and save an Urbi without autocannon?

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Fine, give me more lights with lots of missile hard points.

I promise that my Oxide and Jenner IIC don't regularly get 2-3 solo kills and 500+ damage if they don't instantly explode before I can sneak up on someone.

[MerryIguana]

What a laugh.

[Nightmare1]

One word: Osiris.

[CDLord HHGD]

Ghostmaker, on 04 February 2016 - 08:56 AM, said:

There is a plague of laser-boating light mechs.

[wanderer]

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There is a plague of laser-boating light mechs.

Since they're the only weapon lights can generally pack that puts maximum damage on one spot, it's generally the only sensible option.

And pretty much has been since the Founder's era when we all zipped around in Jenners.