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#1 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 07:39 AM

I have found the sweetspot in the Rifleman and she performs very well. To all those DOA naysayers: L2P, L2MechLab!

For three out of 4 variants, it's basically the same build.
Legend Killer
RFL-3N
RFL-3C
Since I only plan to keep the LK and 3N, no problems for me (I am preferring the 3N over the LK though).

Here's the oddball build but I found something that works.
RFL-5D

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 08:03 AM

Ok now I can buy the Rolfleman.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 08:25 AM

very respectable builds.
looks like you've got it.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 11:46 AM

Nice builds, but I would drop a Med Laser on the 5D for more armor.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 11:51 AM

View Postcdlord, on 22 February 2016 - 07:39 AM, said:

I have found the sweetspot in the Rifleman and she performs very well. To all those DOA naysayers: L2P, L2MechLab!

For three out of 4 variants, it's basically the same build.
Legend Killer
RFL-3N
RFL-3C
Since I only plan to keep the LK and 3N, no problems for me (I am preferring the 3N over the LK though).

Here's the oddball build but I found something
RFL-5D


I like that layout best in the 3N. Much prefer the MPL on the same trigger. 3C got to has AC10 though, and the 5D, PPC, oor no dice for me.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 12:05 PM

For the 3N and 3C, dual AC20 with 56 rounds of ammo and an XL 225 engine. Apply armor after you've set it up like that.

Then you play as an assassin. Posted Image You sit behind a corner watching the laser fire go back and forth between the teams. When one of your opponents finally pushes up (because invariably your team will be the meeker), you jump out from cover and celebrate International Woman's Day on them then get back into cover somewhere else. Posted Image

Alternatively, you wait for that enemy atlas or king crab to separate from its friends and then go see if you can outbrawl it in your papermache mech. More often than not, they freak out when you start shaking their cockpit and ripping off armor in big chunks and next thing you know, dead assault. Posted Image

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 12:50 PM

well done

#8 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 12:50 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 22 February 2016 - 11:51 AM, said:

I like that layout best in the 3N. Much prefer the MPL on the same trigger. 3C got to has AC10 though, and the 5D, PPC, oor no dice for me.

I tried running the ERPPCs on it but the heat spike was horribad. Since I am not planning on keeping it, I didn;t spend any more time tweaking. Just found what I needed to "git r dun."

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:32 PM

Pulse lasers and UACs?

I thought you disliked the meta cdlord?

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:34 PM

Ammo in the arms? The **** are you smoking?

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:37 PM

View PostAresye, on 22 February 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Pulse lasers and UACs?

I thought you disliked the meta cdlord?

Oh yeah, that jam chance with two UACs sure is meta. Also, I thought the prerequisite for laservomit was at least 6 lasers... :D

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:39 PM

Everybody has their own sweetspots...

The only people who declared the Rifleman DOA are people who forgot about "tonnage" as if the Rifleman was supposed to be on par with a 75 ton Heavy Mech.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:41 PM

View PostOrdin Hall, on 22 February 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Ammo in the arms? The **** are you smoking?

With just a pair of AC/5s (or UAC/5s - though there's no way in hell I'd use such an unreliable weapon system on a papermache weapons platform) your face-time to deal any significant damage is really high. More often than not your torsos will go before the arms take any significant amount of damage. If you're twisting to mitigate damage, you're not shooting. If you're not shooting, you're going to die a LOT faster.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:44 PM

View PostVolthorne, on 22 February 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

With just a pair of AC/5s (or UAC/5s - though there's no way in hell I'd use such an unreliable weapon system on a papermache weapons platform) your face-time to deal any significant damage is really high. More often than not your torsos will go before the arms take any significant amount of damage. If you're twisting to mitigate damage, you're not shooting. If you're not shooting, you're going to die a LOT faster.

Hence why my builds cannot be meta. :) Thank you.

Also, I have found the RFL to be more XL friendly than most. Not perfect, but for me, it's definitely workable.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 01:57 PM

View Postcdlord, on 22 February 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

Hence why my builds cannot be meta. Posted Image Thank you.

Also, I have found the RFL to be more XL friendly than most. Not perfect, but for me, it's definitely workable.

Not meta, because it doesn't have near enough sustainability. I can pick out five major weaknesses to exploit, the XL being the smallest of them.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 02:30 PM

Nice builds. I'm sure they work well. But I prefer the 5D with 6 medium pulse lasers and 2 small pulse lasers. I love that thing. I know half of you are thinking I'm bleeding insane for making a brawler Rifleman but it works for me.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 02:41 PM

60 ton mech going 65kph, with an XL engine. Uhh no thanks.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 02:44 PM

View PostAresye, on 22 February 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Pulse lasers and UACs?

I thought you disliked the meta cdlord?


When did they Meta re-adopt UACs?

Also, you know some of us used weapons before metashifts brought the copypasta masses to offer door step. Meta shifts to PPCs tomorrow, I ain't gonna stop using them just because lemming nation is using them now.

View PostMole, on 22 February 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

Nice builds. I'm sure they work well. But I prefer the 5D with 6 medium pulse lasers and 2 small pulse lasers. I love that thing. I know half of you are thinking I'm bleeding insane for making a brawler Rifleman but it works for me.


I generally approve of insanity of all sorts. It's far more interesting than vanilla copypasta.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 02:48 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 22 February 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

I generally approve of insanity of all sorts. It's far more interesting than vanilla copypasta.

I think my favorite part about my Rifleman is the fact that it moves at 80+ kph with a Standard engine and can force a 100 ton assault mech to torso twist away from my 44 points of damage that can be fired four times before overheat.

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 02:57 PM

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=390&l=e21e31270870c0e15aa29efd69b213528774e74b LK

Thats how id run it.

I might actually pick these pos up if nothing else to force myself to get good with IS ac5.


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fb9e97953a985bb 5D


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2f5cffff0d54e66 3N


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...87ea79a581c713a 3R

Edited by jaxjace, 22 February 2016 - 03:09 PM.






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