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[Nabbis]

I just came back to the game and already the want to buy mechs has taken hold of me. I would want some advice what to do with this impulse of mine.
So I would really want to have a Clan mech pack, either a la carte timberwolf and direwolf from the first wave or the cauldron-born pack from the third wave.

What I got from the store page looking at these is that the cauldron-born package actually has more stuff than the counterpart from the first wave, or the a la carte pick of timberwolf and direwolf. Then again most of these mechs can be bought for cbills right now right? its a battle between rational mind saying play the game buy the mechs for ingame money and the hoarder side of me going must have stuff noaw! what to do

Edited by Nabbis, 18 February 2016 - 06:22 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Nabbis, on 18 February 2016 - 06:21 AM, said:

I just came back to the game and already the want to buy mechs has taken hold of me. I would want some advice what to do with this impulse of mine.
So I would really want to have a Clan mech pack, either a la carte timberwolf and direwolf from the first wave or the cauldron-born pack from the third wave.

What I got from the store page looking at these is that the cauldron-born package actually has more stuff than the counterpart from the first wave, or the a la carte pick of timberwolf and direwolf. Then again most of these mechs can be bought for cbills right now right? its a battle between rational mind saying play the game buy the mechs for ingame money and the hoarder side of me going must have stuff noaw! what to do

Literally all of those mechs can be bought for C-Bills right now.

Did you check out the Kodiak pack? It's cheap, and it's gonna give you some freebies if you pre-order.

On the otherhand, if your heart is set on the EBJ, TBR, and DWF, then I would recommend the EBJ package, if you're buying the package, and not the EBJ A la carte.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 18 February 2016 - 06:31 AM.

[Wintersdark]

The ebj pack is a really good deal. The ACH is the best light in the game, the SHC is probably the most fun mech to pilot in the game (while not terribly powerful, its fast, and MASC is a blast, its like a fighter jet) and the EBJ is definitely a top tier heavy. Value wise, its a great buy.

The timberwolf is, of course, the timberwolf, but one mech a'la carte is a terrible buy. Pay a lot, just get the one mech. I'd c-bill the timberwolf.

I recommend against buying the DWF. Since they nerfed agility pilot skills substantially, the DWF is really kind of terrible now. So slow, so clumsy.

Instead, grab the Kodiak pack, and the spirit bear hero upgrade. Comparable builds, swappable engines, MASC, etc.

[John1352]

I would also recommend the EBJ pack with the Shadowcat and Cheetah, then use the cash you make while leveling them to grab the Direwolf and Timberwolf.

It depends on your ratio of money vs playtime too

[Koniving]

Steam version. For 5 dollars less than an A la Carte TBR, you can has a TBR + a Thunderbolt both with 30% cbill bonuses. o.O;

It's one 'mech' less (as the package a la cartes have 3 variants), but two cash-earning mechs instead of one.

[Totem1]

Agree on what has been said so far and also suggest NOT getting the Direwolf unless it gets some kind of speed buff. I have 4 and they are gathering dust in the hangars since the great nerf that reduced all the experience bonuses (specifically the speed tweek). Also if you want something clan in all 4 weight classes then seriously think about the Stormcrow rather than the Shadowcat. I bought the Shadowcat along with the cheetah pack and although the cheetah is a great mech (but not the mega killer some would have you believe) the Shadowcat is a little underwhelming and can only really snipe... yes yes I know some people brawl with it but I never could.
I resisted getting the Stormcrows fo ages but when I finally did get the I found I had more option with what I wanted do with them than I do with the Shadowcats....imho.

Also someone mentioned the A build Timber which I don't believe is available for C-bills? and gives you the left torso that has high mounted laser points...however it I also (currently) the only one to remain with higher negative quirks (the S variant jump omnipods also have some smaller negative quirks).

Thinking further on your request... if you were looking a set of clan mechs for CW then I would slightly alter my suggestion and offer you the Hellbringer series which although somewhat limited to choices are good mechs for CW.

Edited by Totem1, 18 February 2016 - 10:38 AM.

[Spheroid]

My recommendation is to buy the Ebon Jaguar only a la carte and supplement the purchase with an early bird standard Kodiak package.

Doing so you combine the c-bill boost of the Ebon Jag with the 30 days premium time plus the large amount of c-bills and valuable modules you get from the Kodiak preorder. That option is $75 vs. $90 though you forgo camo and paint.

The ShadowCat is not the best of mechs nor is the Dire. The Ebon Jag is currently a tier 1 heavy though. The Cheetah is cheap enough to purchase with c-bills.

Edited by Spheroid, 18 February 2016 - 09:59 AM.

[Nabbis]

You know guys this didn't get any easier .

But yea atm I could drop around 50-80€ to the game but god damnit guys this was so much easier when there were just hero mechs to worry about.

I have around 41mil cbills in the game at the moment its either going to the new clan mechs or getting my Ilya to mastery by buying 2 other cataphracts and then maybe a Stalker N for the CW.

Or I could buy the Clan mechs with some left overs i have and then spend the cbills making my inner sphere dropdeck better. when did this get so complicated seriously :S

[Totem1]

New clan mechs, I would suggest, pose a serious input of cash.. both real and c-bill for you right now. You are essentially starting from scratch.. but looking at what you have may I suggest this.....Don't worry too much about getting other cataphracts.. they are tier 2 at best. The Ilys is a sound choice with 3 x uac or ac5's and can still cut the mustard in CW so to speak. A stalker N is also a sound choice.. I use this in CW as my first mech with 4 large lasers (not the 6 as described in metamechs). To bolster your IS deck.. look at thunderbolts...yes they used to be mere targets but now are pretty standard fair in CW IS decks. For a light either the raven for its sniper/ecm or the firestarter for kills.

[Nabbis]

Well atm My mechbays holds 4 hero mechs: Misery, Ilya, Yen lo wang and Ember.
Then some basic chasis from those mechs:
STK-F and H thinking of replacing the H with N as I said.
Ilya does not have those two cataphracts to master it.
I have two centurions with the Yen, A and AH and then firestarters S and A with ember. also 3 jagers and 1 cata k2.

At the moment my CW drop deck is, Firestarter ember, Jager S, Ilya, And my Misery those seem to work decently well but the lure of the clan mechs is strong.

Edited by Nabbis, 18 February 2016 - 11:46 AM.

[Spheroid]

Why do you want to buy Clan mechs if you are going to being playing CW as IS?

[Digital_Angel]

Spheroid, on 18 February 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

Why do you want to buy Clan mechs if you are going to being playing CW as IS?

Well there is always that "Mechbay Shuffle" doing enough of a tour across every House/Clan to get those free Mech Bays.

[Nabbis]

LadyDanams, on 18 February 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:

Well there is always that "Mechbay Shuffle" doing enough of a tour across every House/Clan to get those free Mech Bays.

Yes mainly this and secondly i have no clue under whos flag i am gona be on yet . and on quick play it does not seem to matter at all. so its just a bit of an hoarders habit to have bit of everything and options open.

Edited by Nabbis, 18 February 2016 - 01:29 PM.

[Havyek]

IMO do the math, are you better off buying MC and then spending it on 'Mechs and/or C-Bill packages?
Buying premium time and then using it to gather c-bills quickly and buy 'Mechs with c-bills?

[JC Daxion]

I wish i bought the timber ala cart package.. Instead i bought 30 bucks MC, and got a champion timber. I really would of loved the timber with a c-bill booster.

But at least i got the GXP boosting Champion, helps unlock stuff faster at least..

[IraqiWalker]

Spheroid, on 18 February 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

Why do you want to buy Clan mechs if you are going to being playing CW as IS?

I'm a purely IS pilot (I might actually consider finally doing the mechbay shuiffle, and leaving house Davion for about a week), and have played purely in House Davion since CW 1. I still have about 5 different clan chassis in my stable, at 3 variants each, at least. I'm also thinking of forking some money on the Kodiak pack, even though I will never really move to the clan side for CW (Except for that hypothetical shuffle).

[Nabbis]

Well I went and bought the kodiak package after seeing the early bird bonuses thought thats not a bad deal for 36€.
But those mechs are still unknown as how balanced or usefull those are gona be.

The package was only half what I was prepared to spend.
A lot of you said to think about getting the jaguar a la carte but as someone mentioned there are those steam packages as well that I was not even aware of so now its a battle between the steam heavy or jaguar a la carte.

Edited by Nabbis, 19 February 2016 - 03:18 AM.

[Ace Selin]

Totem1, on 18 February 2016 - 09:39 AM, said:

Agree on what has been said so far and also suggest NOT getting the Direwolf unless

.......You know how to play assaults well.

The Direwolf in competent hands is a monster. I have more 1000 damage games in this mech than probably all my other mechs combined, i probably get one every week or so and i only purchased my very first Dire in October 2015. The Dire has so many good builds too and provided you position yourself the firepower is nearly unstoppable. Highly recommended mech to buy, provided you play assault mechs well.

Nabbis, on 19 February 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

Well I went and bought the kodiak package after seeing the early bird bonuses thought thats not a bad deal for 36€.
But those mechs are still unknown as how balanced or usefull those are gona be.

The package was only half what I was prepared to spend.
A lot of you said to think about getting the jaguar a la carte but as someone mentioned there are those steam packages as well that I was not even aware of so now its a battle between the steam heavy or jaguar a la carte.

I think the Kodiak is a great buy and will be a superb assault mech, especially the KDK-3 & the KDK-SB 'SPIRIT BEAR. Also the KDK-1

Personally id go Steam heavy pack, 2 Cbill boosting mechs takes away the grind and the Timber is a great heavy for the Clans.

Edited by Ace Selin, 19 February 2016 - 05:05 AM.

[Rogue Jedi]

Nabbis, on 19 February 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

Well I went and bought the kodiak package after seeing the early bird bonuses thought thats not a bad deal for 36€.
But those mechs are still unknown as how balanced or usefull those are gona be.

The package was only half what I was prepared to spend.
A lot of you said to think about getting the jaguar a la carte but as someone mentioned there are those steam packages as well that I was not even aware of so now its a battle between the steam heavy or jaguar a la carte.

the Steam pack gets you 1 each of arguably the best Clan and IS Heavy Mechs, with a 30% cbill boost, 3,000 MC, unfortunately not enough to buy another Timby, 5 million cbills and 30 days premium time, as opposed to the ebon Jag a la carte which gives you 3 Ebon Jaguar Mechs 1 of which has the 30$ cbill bonus, nothing else, based on the price of the Ebon a la carte $55 and the steam performance packs £37.49 which according to google is $53.50 there is little diferance in terms of price, I would consider the steam performance pack to be better value.

other options worth considering in that price range, $60 for Clan Wave3 Shadow Cat pack, yes it does not include an iconic Clan heavy but it does include the extremely good Arctic Cheetah and the Shadow Cat, 3 each including 1 each with the cbill bonus, as well as 7 days premium time, and your choice of 2 Clan Faction content each containing 3 colors, 3 cockpit items and 1 cammo the cammo is only unlocked for the Mechs in the pack but the other stuff can be used on any Mech

Origins IIC Orion Pack, again 60$ for the Orion IIC pack, or $40 for the Hunchback IIC pack, again you get 1 of each chassis with a 30% cbill boost the Hunchback IIC and Jenner IIC are both great Mechs, I think the Jenner IIC is better than the Arctic Cheetah but that is just my personal preference, I like the speed, agility and Firepower of the Jenner IIC over the durability and ECM of the Arctic Cheetah.
the Hunchback IIC is completely different but roughly as useful as the Shadow Cat, the Orion is not quite as good as the Timber or Ebon but it is far from a bad Mech.
you also get extras, 3 faction content each containing 6 colours, 3 cockpit items and 1 cammo, the cammo can only be applied to the chassis you got in the pack but the other stuff can be used on any Mech, there is also 30 days premium time, if you just go as far as the Hunchback IIC you will get 7 days prem time and 2 faction content

Edited by Rogue Jedi, 19 February 2016 - 05:15 AM.

[Nabbis]

I did go with the Steam package on the heavies and after a test run on the thunderbolt and timberwolf they really aren't half bad and then i went on a spree of spending my cbills.

IIt ended on me going from almost 60mil to around 5mil cbills :S

I bought Stalker N, two cataphracts and two timberwolfs more and now i am capped on my mechbays and looking how to actually play these mechs.
Also what the heck are omnipods? they are like shoulder and arm parts you can change between the chasis on the clan mechs if i understood correctly?

Edited by Nabbis, 20 February 2016 - 08:56 AM.