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[OznerpaG]

was looking at mechs i havn't played in a while scavenging modules - wern't negative quirks supposed to be erased from clan mechs? the other 2 TBRs have blank quirks so i'd assume so

[TexAce]

Perhaps the gained sanity again after they thought removing the neg quirks, upping tonnage to 260 and removing IS energy range quirks was a good idea towards balance.

Seriously I wonder what kind of seizure they got between now and the time when 3 timbers (WITH negative quirks mind you) was seen as too OP in CW against any IS dropdeck, thus capping it at 240 tons.

Edited by TexAce, 01 March 2016 - 07:34 AM.

[Davegt27]

Crap this is the same subject I just posted about let me go delete it



I keep seeing red on some of my Clan Mechs (talking about quirks that is)

Edited by Davegt27, 01 March 2016 - 07:35 AM.

[SpiralFace]

They said that they where removing the negative WEAPON quirks, which they did. They never said anything about the mobility ones. Of which the S side torso pods and the A Left torso pods have some. Since they already are obviously better then nearly every other pod out there.

[Davegt27]

SpiralFace, on 01 March 2016 - 07:35 AM, said:

They said that they where removing the negative WEAPON quirks, which they did. They never said anything about the mobility ones. Of which the S side torso pods and the A Left torso pods have some. Since they already are obviously better then nearly every other pod out there.

Better then every other pod is an opinion

The major heat nerf to clan mechs forces a move to ballistics but the ballistics pods
Have neg quirks

So I was wondering about the reference for removal of neg quirks so I can try to separate out people’s opinions to what PGI actually said

[Cyborne Elemental]

All of the weapon related negative quirks are gone, Its a pretty big step in un-nerfing the Timber, as well as the Stormcrow.

ERLL can actually be used on them now.

Using the A-Left Torso is the only real problem, but given the advantages it offers you can counter most of those negative quirks with the missle only Right torso.

Edited by Mister D, 01 March 2016 - 07:49 AM.

[OznerpaG]

only weapon negative quirks removed - gotcha

i just realized i had stripped all the omnipods out of my other 2 chassis, which would explain why they don't have neg quirks

Edited by JagdFlanker, 01 March 2016 - 07:57 AM.

[Davegt27]

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All of the weapon related negative quirks are gone, Its a pretty big step in un-nerfing the Timber, as well as the Stormcrow.

ERLL can actually be used on them now.

Using the A-Left Torso is the only real problem, but given the advantages it offers you can counter most of those negative quirks with the missle only Right torso.

when PGI implemented the big laser nerf last year I built my 4 C-ERLL TW to be a "well take this" build
It has been my most reliable and effective CW build since then

[Y E O N N E]

Davegt27, on 01 March 2016 - 07:43 AM, said:

Better then every other pod is an opinion

The major heat nerf to clan mechs forces a move to ballistics but the ballistics pods
Have neg quirks

So I was wondering about the reference for removal of neg quirks so I can try to separate out people’s opinions to what PGI actually said

"Major heat nerf"

Which one? I hope you aren't talking about that pitiful reduction in heat cap by 0.2 points per sink, that Clans received in exchange for a 0.1 h/s increase in dissipation.

If you're talking about lasers being hotter than the TT value, well...they were way too cold before. Even IS smalls and mediums got heat-nerfed.

The bigger problem Clans have is players attempting to over-gun their 'Mechs...

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 01 March 2016 - 11:31 PM.

[Moldur]

PGI does not believe in fine tuning.

[El Bandito]

JagdFlanker, on 01 March 2016 - 07:19 AM, said:

was looking at mechs i havn't played in a while scavenging modules - wern't negative quirks supposed to be erased from clan mechs? the other 2 TBRs have blank quirks so i'd assume so

The negative quirk is still there if you use the A torso on other variants. However, those negative quirks will go away if you have all 8 A omnipods. My Timbie-A has only positive quirk, none negative, which is awesome.

[kesmai]

Negative quirks have to go. All of them. On any mech.

[Wolfways]

Well the MDD's got missile and ballistic quirks....
Where are the laser quirks?!

[Kmieciu]

Davegt27, on 01 March 2016 - 07:43 AM, said:

Better then every other pod is an opinion

S-Right torso is clearly the best, since it has the most hardpoints of all the Right torsos.

Davegt27, on 01 March 2016 - 07:43 AM, said:

The major heat nerf to clan mechs forces a move to ballistics but the ballistics pods

You mean the heat nerf that increased dissipation? So that the Timber can alpha more often?