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[Third Flower]

zezzrus, on 13 July 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

There leadership calls people out IRL to kill selves. I would not join this gaming group of bullies.
It is not cute or funny. Follow the leader, so there leader represents rest of group. They group up to attempt to power game and try and dominate.

What to do, what to do. I really can't tell you. Maybe if you talked to a loved one? If you have such a one? Someone who cares deeply for you? Maybe a pet? That will do nicely for you, I think. Then the goons - maybe not so bad? Maybe?

[zezzrus]

This is the shortened post since preview didn't work. There is good genuine reason why these bullies are disliked.

[CommieGIR]

zezzrus, on 13 July 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

There leadership calls people out IRL to kill selves. I would not join this gaming group of bullies.
It is not cute or funny. Follow the leader, so there leader represents rest of group. They group up to attempt to power game and try and dominate.

How long have you been on the internet? I definently don't do stuff like that, but to be very honest, this is not a SA/Goon only occurrence: Memembase, Youtube, Icanhascheesebruger, Facebook, Twitter, Forums galore are filled with these exact phrases.

Does it justify it? No. Just it mean we are king of the hill in the bully department? Probably not.

Will I say stuff like that? Never. But do I think censorship is the path to freedom? Most assuredly not.

zezzrus, on 13 July 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

There is good genuine reason why these bullies are disliked.

Name one.

BoB? From EvE? The Corp that is basically came out was working with a Dev?
http://www.escapistm...iends-They-Keep


Surely you don't hate goons for that?

WoT? We are smaller clan compared to most, we are moderately successful in battle. No cheating is involved, and though the trolling is mighty, we play fair and lose as much as we win.

So give me a legitimate reason you hate them.

Edited by CommieGIR, 13 July 2012 - 05:57 PM.

[Third Flower]

zezzrus, on 13 July 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

This is the shortened post since preview didn't work. There is good genuine reason why these bullies are disliked.

Come again? Could you phrase that in something resembling a language? I'm all for off-kilter posting, but if you ever had a point, it is far out to sea.

[Dificeman]

Do I really need to track down all the post of the goons exploits and hacks? How about the ones that Goon themselves even announced they were doing? So what was the reason goon recently had tons of assests seized and removed in Eve? Oh yet explotation. ROFl I dont have to provide proof to you. There is tons of proof all anyone has to do is spend 5 minutes looking and they will find tons.

LOL no goon have never personally dont anything for me because I have not been stupid enough to fall for the scams and bs that comes out of thier mouth. However, facts are facts. if you dont like being called scum dont assiocate with scum /shrug

[Third Flower]

Dificeman, on 13 July 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Do I really need to track down all the post of the goons exploits and hacks? How about the ones that Goon themselves even announced they were doing? So what was the reason goon recently had tons of assests seized and removed in Eve? Oh yet explotation. ROFl I dont have to provide proof to you. There is tons of proof all anyone has to do is spend 5 minutes looking and they will find tons.

LOL no goon have never personally dont anything for me because I have not been stupid enough to fall for the scams and bs that comes out of thier mouth. However, facts are facts. if you dont like being called scum dont assiocate with scum /shrug

If anyone can sum this up for me, I'm sure I'd be happy to answer it, but I am really much too tired to dig through sentences like "Oh yet explotation. ROFI" for some kind of meaning.

I don't know, something about how evil we are? Sure? I'm pretty evil - flowers are such disruptive creatures, after all. With all that flowering all over the place, and wilting.

[CommieGIR]

Dificeman, on 13 July 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Do I really need to track down all the post of the goons exploits and hacks? How about the ones that Goon themselves even announced they were doing? So what was the reason goon recently had tons of assests seized and removed in Eve? Oh yet explotation. ROFl I dont have to provide proof to you. There is tons of proof all anyone has to do is spend 5 minutes looking and they will find tons.

Wait? Are you a CCP dev? Good costume!

Not to be rude, but if there WAS exploitation, you think CCP would KNOW about it and do something about it. Somehow you are the only one clued in on this.

Christ, we are dragging other games that have no connection to MWO

[Skadi]

mods just left the thread... feeling the forest is about to be set ablaze.

[I Pet Goat]

There is no point trying to argue against the goons.

They “are always” right. No matter what the topic is.

They feed off of anything said to them, good or bad.


Play the “game” like they do. The “Report” game.

They post purely to incite reaction, something that breaks the forum’s CoC. They jump on the button, and wait for the moderators to do what they must do - follow the rules, action any reported posts.

Deny them what they want.

Deny ignorance.

[CommieGIR]

I Pet Goat, on 13 July 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

There is no point trying to argue against the goons.

They “are always” right. No matter what the topic is.

They feed off of anything said to them, good or bad.


Play the “game” like they do. The “Report” game.

They post purely to incite reaction, something that breaks the forum’s CoC. They jump on the button, and wait for the moderators to do what they must do - follow the rules, action any reported posts.

Deny them what they want.

Deny ignorance.

Thanks V, hows London?

By the way, do I know you or something? Do you just assume I must be like every other goon because I play with goons?

Get off your high horse.

Edited by CommieGIR, 13 July 2012 - 06:04 PM.

[Lipot]

Ok. Can someone tell me why people who claim that SA/Goon are so bad doing almost the exact same thing as they claim that SA/Goon are doing? Really. It is like saying we come in peace while shooting someone at point blank. At one point, a search on the internet would get you 10 pages of **** for every 1 page of actual information. Now it is turning into 10 pages of whining and complaining for every 1 page of information. Come on people. Every time someone comes off with this big "SA/Goon does nothing but troll" or " SA/Goon are only out to ruin the game for the rest of us" you are letting them get to you and win. If you really want to fight back, go with the banter or ignore them. It is that simple. And everyone that has lost a ship or a fleet in EVE or been totally owned in some other game, look at it this way. You now get a chance at pay back in something that only the Beta testers and Development team knows how it plays. Get organized into teams, use simple Voip programs, and fire a few Gauss rounds into them. All of this complaining and whining is poisoning the game even before we really get it.

[KelethDragon]

I have several friends who were/still are part of goonswarm. I must say after asking a few questions about em.. and whatnot.. They aren't so bad. Trollsy and lulsy? Yes.

Ganked me a few times while I was AFK-Mining in my hulk? Yeah, but that teaches me to not fold laundry/bake while playing a videogame.

Looking forward to playing with you guys on the field. May we all get in some sweet burns.

[Oy of MidWorld]

I Pet Goat, on 13 July 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

Goons would not be looked upon with hatred if their intentions were truly just to play the game and have fun, as we know it.
Playing the game for a goon = Trolling on the forums purely to seek a player reaction to their posted vomit, then spam report said person, then laugh about it on private forums while slapping each other on the back and cheering about a job well done.



The way you’ve been able to operate inside eve, it seems will not be tolerated here, from what we have seen become of your troll threads.
I for one, welcome you to “play the game” as we know it. Mech against Mech, where it’s all about player skill, not “mouthing off skill”.



I wait to see you on the battlefield. Tho honestly, I am not expecting much in terms of competition. A lot of noise while you run into a building whilst typing “SQUAWK!!” And other garbage purely to try and incite rage/reaction, but actual skill in the pilot seat? Hah! I think not.



Please cease your “we come to play the game only” deceit. Only the truth will set you free.



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These screens are a nice find, thanks. Anything the OP said from this post on, was clearly visible as the BS it is.

I didn't even know there were people like this. Acting stupid in a game, cause you're drunk or just feel like it, stuff like that happens. But organizing on this scale, to spoil other people's fun is just pathetic.

I never got to like any online rpg, i think i'm starting to see the reason why. One more reason to find a good "grognard" unit for this game. I hope we'll be able to disable chat.

[CommieGIR]

Drathorin, on 13 July 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

I have several friends who were/still are part of goonswarm. I must say after asking a few questions about em.. and whatnot.. They aren't so bad. Trollsy and lulsy? Yes.

Ganked me a few times while I was AFK-Mining in my hulk? Yeah, but that teaches me to not fold laundry/bake while playing a videogame.

Looking forward to playing with you guys on the field. May we all get in some sweet burns.

I'll be the first to admit: in WoT, I am nearly always the first to die in clan matches. I'm addicted to Tank Destroyers, which don't fit in clan warfare very well.

But do I have fun? Hell yes. Have I heard cheating and exploits? Nope. Not at all. Tactics and Strategem? Yep. Trolling? A lot of it.

But I have fun, and I have fun playing with non-goons as well. So whats the problem?

Oy of MidWorld, on 13 July 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

These screens are a nice find, thanks. Anything the OP said from this post on, was clearly visible as the BS it is.

I didn't even know there were people like this. Acting stupid in a game, cause you're drunk or just feel like it, stuff like that happens. But organizing on this scale, to spoil other people's fun is just pathetic.

I never got to like any online rpg, i think i'm starting to see the reason why. One more reason to find a good "grognard" unit for this game. I hope we'll be able to disable chat.

I see my name....all of once. And you cannot even read what I say.

So thanks. Thanks for shoving words in my mouth. And thanks for encouraging someone to spy on other peoples clan forums. I hope it happens to whatever clan you join.

Do you even understand what you are reading, or are you just trying to justify a lynching? Because I quite honestly feel like my neck is in the rope and you jerks are too busy trying to justify stringing me up with almost zero credibility.

So who wants to hang me? Who wants me dead because I associate with goons. Who shall cast the first stone?

Edited by CommieGIR, 13 July 2012 - 06:13 PM.

[Pat Kell]

trying to understand all this but all I have come up with is there are some people (goons?) who have gotten together and for what ever reason (laughs, evil take-over-the-world type plan) try to ruin the game for other people?....if this is true then its just sad on both sides. sad for goons because they can't find something better to do and sad for all the complainers because they couldn't find something better to do. still yawning though heh. oh and btw commieGIR, you work for the DoD and have a name like that lol...thats either incredibly funny or incredibly worrisome for our country heh, good luck to ya

Edited by Pat Kell, 13 July 2012 - 06:14 PM.

[Veevslav]

CommieGIR, on 13 July 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

I get it.

I really do. I've been browsing and posting on SA's forums for YEARS, since 2006 to be precise.

But lets straighten a few things out:

They do weird things and say weird things. Its a goon thing, its not going to change for MWO, never did for WoT or EvE or many many other games goons play.

They do this because you react to it. Remember what your mom told you in high school about kids you didn't like? Yeah, its like that.

The sheer amount of posts I find that are 'OMG I hate goons they are ruining the atmosphere of the game' or 'They are ruining the Battletech legacy'

Please.

YOU ARE HERE TO PLAY A GAME. I AM HERE TO PLAY WITH OR AGAINST YOU. FOR FUN.


Can we just all be friends? Can we all just play together for the FUN of it? This is not a historical reenactment, this is a game, where other people all over the world will come to have fun, regardless if they are trying to reenact REAL Battletech units or just making silly stuff up.

Now go play. And I hope we all get to play together.

Word of Lowtax is a silly thing. I should know. I coined the name. I coined it to have fun, I coined it to be silly. I coined it to get a bunch of silly people together and play a game for the fun of it. Because at the end of the day, no matter who is the top clan or merc group, I logoff the computer, I go home and work on cars, go to work for the United State DoD, go shopping, play with my 3 month old son and discuss the day with my wife, study for my physics degree, and do numerous other much more important things.

I want to play MWO to have fun. So stop trying to make it otherwise.

I look forward to seeing you all on the battlefield both along side you and against you.

I dont mind goons...... Just more targets....... Not exactly the most skilled... They just flock together.....

Glad to have more targets!

[KelethDragon]

CommieGIR, on 13 July 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

I'll be the first to admit: in WoT, I am nearly always the first to die in clan matches. I'm addicted to Tank Destroyers, which don't fit in clan warfare very well.

But do I have fun? Hell yes. Have I heard cheating and exploits? Nope. Not at all. Tactics and Strategem? Yep. Trolling? A lot of it.

But I have fun, and I have fun playing with non-goons as well. So whats the problem?

Oh, I apologize for my tone if it came across as I have a problem. Personally I don't have a problem with the goons. I see me and my own local group of friends to be just as terrible for trolling, mocking people and derping about as anyone else on the internet.

I'm one of the first to die in world of tanks because I like to use my heavy tank like.. a heavy. I will T-Bone that Maus! (And get kamikaze for it too. Yes, IS-3 didn't survive but.. hoorah)

Oddly enough, I get called a hacker and jerkoff and other things for just straight out playing the game.

You can't satisfy stupid people, because they'll just invent some reason as to how you are ruining their fun. Take a lot of the posts in here, I find it ironic they say goons/internet demographic ruins games... and then find out they are playing the same games. But didn't realize it?

How can you not realize your game is ruined beforehand? Obviously a lot of these people can't identify what a goon -is-. And that might be part of the problem.

[Tim doyon]

Oy of MidWorld, on 13 July 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

These screens are a nice find, thanks. Anything the OP said from this post on, was clearly visible as the BS it is.

I didn't even know there were people like this. Acting stupid in a game, cause you're drunk or just feel like it, stuff like that happens. But organizing on this scale, to spoil other people's fun is just pathetic.

I never got to like any online rpg, i think i'm starting to see the reason why. One more reason to find a good "grognard" unit for this game. I hope we'll be able to disable chat.

If thats how you really feel, then dont play the game. The whole point of MMOs is to interact with others.

I dont know why everyone is complaining about the trolling, a trolling Goon is pure comedy.

Edited by Tim doyon, 13 July 2012 - 06:15 PM.

[CommieGIR]

Drathorin, on 13 July 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

Oh, I apologize for my tone if it came across as I have a problem. Personally I don't have a problem with the goons. I see me and my own local group of friends to be just as terrible for trolling, mocking people and derping about as anyone else on the internet.

I'm one of the first to die in world of tanks because I like to use my heavy tank like.. a heavy. I will T-Bone that Maus! (And get kamikaze for it too. Yes, IS-3 didn't survive but.. hoorah)

Oddly enough, I get called a hacker and jerkoff and other things for just straight out playing the game.

You can't satisfy stupid people, because they'll just invent some reason as to how you are ruining their fun. Take a lot of the posts in here, I find it ironic they say goons/internet demographic ruins games... and then find out they are playing the same games. But didn't realize it?

How can you not realize your game is ruined beforehand? Obviously a lot of these people can't identify what a goon -is-. And that might be part of the problem.

Agreed. And thank you.

I will gladly look forward to fighting with you Drathorin.

[Necrodemus]

Manthony Higgs, on 13 July 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

I didn't even know that there were goons here until this thread.

It's not really something worth knowing. I've played EVE since 2005. I don't know when I found out about them in EVE, but my reaction was the same as yours... and while I know about them now, the sentiment is the same. Not worth knowing about.

Edit: This is referring to the group as a whole. Some of the individuals are great both in game and out. The comments above were not referring to the character of the individuals as the group mentality is very different.

Edited by Necrodemus, 13 July 2012 - 06:24 PM.