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[ReemusX]

Was looking over the patch notes for today's update.... Haven't had a chance to really read up...

In CW....is the tonnage for drop deck dropping from 260 down to 235 now? Did I read that right? Or does it have something to do with the new trials coming in?

I really hope it isn't dropping. I decided to spend about $60 (before the event) on my new mechs and even mech bays and some money to build my mechs specifically for my CW deck which was exactly 260t. This would mean that I blew real money for almost nothing.....

Don't have time this morning before work to scan threads about this and see what's up.... Man.... That is going to be a big slap in my face if it is true. Still only in game a few months but have already dropped a good $300 into MWO (Archer pack, this and that) and FINALLY got hooked on CW and it is all I play..... Not going to be happy about this at all..

[Hit the Deck]

Are you aware that they have been changing the tonnage limits several times already?

[NextGame]

ReemusX, on 15 March 2016 - 03:18 AM, said:

Was looking over the patch notes for today's update.... Haven't had a chance to really read up...

In CW....is the tonnage for drop deck dropping from 260 down to 235 now? Did I read that right? Or does it have something to do with the new trials coming in?

I really hope it isn't dropping. I decided to spend about $60 (before the event) on my new mechs and even mech bays and some money to build my mechs specifically for my CW deck which was exactly 260t. This would mean that I blew real money for almost nothing.....

Don't have time this morning before work to scan threads about this and see what's up.... Man.... That is going to be a big slap in my face if it is true. Still only in game a few months but have already dropped a good $300 into MWO (Archer pack, this and that) and FINALLY got hooked on CW and it is all I play..... Not going to be happy about this at all..

Ironically, the more money you have spent on this game, the better a position you should be in to cope with changes to drop deck tonnage

[Wolfways]

ReemusX, on 15 March 2016 - 03:18 AM, said:

This would mean that I blew real money for almost nothing.....

Isn't that the definition of spending money on an online game?

(Yes I've spent way too much money on games. Sadly MWO is the game I've spent the least on when I wish it was worth the most ).

[Divine Retribution]

Just the default trial drop decks will be 235 tons from the notes. No mention of drop tonnage changes. It might be a precursor to dropping tonnage so they don't have to make a new trial drop deck every time they drop weight. As it is now, looks like people in default trial decks will drop 25 tons short of what they probably should.

Edited by Divine Retribution, 15 March 2016 - 03:43 AM.

[Jman5]

Divine Retribution, on 15 March 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

Just the default trial drop decks will be 235 tons from the notes. No mention of drop tonnage changes. It might be a precursor to dropping tonnage so they don't have to make a new trial drop deck every time they drop weight. As it is now, looks like people in default trial decks will drop 25 tons short of what they probably should.

Which is lightyears better than what they have been giving new players for the last several months. They've been giving both IS and Clan players 160-170 ton dropdecks as default. I'm just glad they're in the ballpark now.

[TexAce]

ReemusX, on 15 March 2016 - 03:18 AM, said:

Was looking over the patch notes for today's update.... Haven't had a chance to really read up...

In CW....is the tonnage for drop deck dropping from 260 down to 235 now? Did I read that right? Or does it have something to do with the new trials coming in?

I really hope it isn't dropping. I decided to spend about $60 (before the event) on my new mechs and even mech bays and some money to build my mechs specifically for my CW deck which was exactly 260t. This would mean that I blew real money for almost nothing.....

Don't have time this morning before work to scan threads about this and see what's up.... Man.... That is going to be a big slap in my face if it is true. Still only in game a few months but have already dropped a good $300 into MWO (Archer pack, this and that) and FINALLY got hooked on CW and it is all I play..... Not going to be happy about this at all..

You really thought they wouldn't change dropdeck weights ever again?! They could be changing every month from what we know, they could even vary per planet in Phase 3...

a bit shortsighted from you huh?

Edited by TexAce, 15 March 2016 - 04:04 AM.

[kesmai]

Default drop deck...



though i would not be against a lower tonnage, could be interesting.

Edited by kesmai, 15 March 2016 - 04:12 AM.

[ReemusX]

Thanks, that clears that up...

As for the non-constructive replies placing the blame on me for changes I have no affect on.... Let me make a comparison for you. Yes, it is my choice to spend money on a "ftp" game... But I see it no different than going into a store and deciding to purchase a PC game.... Take it home...like it...play it...but the developers change the mechanics of the game so often that I find myself losing interest.

The difference is...i can take that game to Gamestop and get at least a little of my purchase back if I felt the need... MWO you can't .... So...when I spend money (which what free to play games are designed to eventually get you to do) I am at the mercy of the developer and whatever changes they want to make to the game....despite what people have spent to enjoy it at the state it is in for the time being. They get their money...i get to adapt to any major changes and possibly spend more money to make it as close to the way I enjoyed it before the changes. Welcome to the era of entertainment software racketeering so to speak.

if I spend real money on a product... I expect changes...and major fixes... Not mechanics.

For you kiddos out there who never had to suffer through land line telephones and playing pretend army with sticks and imagination....i will yell you that Free to Play back in the day was called a "demo"... And if you liked the demo and decided to purchase the full version...you usually got what you expected. The new thing today is not sell copies of games...but to sell revisions of the same game in order to produce a long term profit instead of a big hit. So I did not buy a copy of MWO for $40... I am typically spending that money every month to explore the "full version features"... Making big changes that negate some of the purchases made is what I don't like.

[El Bandito]

ReemusX, on 15 March 2016 - 04:13 AM, said:

if I spend real money on a product... I expect changes...and major fixes... Not mechanics.

Blah blah blah. You should expect nothing, cause your expectation is worth nothing in PGI's eyes. Take it from a guy who had been here from the start. Either you should go with the changes, or play another game.

And drop deck tonnage change is not mechanics, just simple number changes. Nothing worth crying about how you have a say cause you spent money on MWO. I spent my time getting three Maulers and four Jager-DDs for CW, but you wont hear me bitching about drop deck tonnage changes.

[Macster16]

IMHO, the 260T it's currently at is too high. Way too many 3 heavy + 1 med dropdecks going around. I'd appreciate it if they dropped it back to 240T as that forces more varied dropdecks.

[El Bandito]

Macster16, on 15 March 2016 - 04:22 AM, said:

IMHO, the 260T it's currently at is too high. Way too many 3 heavy + 1 med dropdecks going around. I'd appreciate it if they dropped it back to 240T as that forces more varied dropdecks.

I agree. 240 tons is what I find the ideal spot, as well.

[NextGame]

ReemusX, on 15 March 2016 - 04:13 AM, said:

Thanks, that clears that up...

As for the non-constructive replies placing the blame on me for changes I have no affect on.... Let me make a comparison for you. Yes, it is my choice to spend money on a "ftp" game... But I see it no different than going into a store and deciding to purchase a PC game.... Take it home...like it...play it...but the developers change the mechanics of the game so often that I find myself losing interest.

The difference is...i can take that game to Gamestop and get at least a little of my purchase back if I felt the need... MWO you can't .... So...when I spend money (which what free to play games are designed to eventually get you to do) I am at the mercy of the developer and whatever changes they want to make to the game....despite what people have spent to enjoy it at the state it is in for the time being. They get their money...i get to adapt to any major changes and possibly spend more money to make it as close to the way I enjoyed it before the changes. Welcome to the era of entertainment software racketeering so to speak.

if I spend real money on a product... I expect changes...and major fixes... Not mechanics.

For you kiddos out there who never had to suffer through land line telephones and playing pretend army with sticks and imagination....i will yell you that Free to Play back in the day was called a "demo"... And if you liked the demo and decided to purchase the full version...you usually got what you expected. The new thing today is not sell copies of games...but to sell revisions of the same game in order to produce a long term profit instead of a big hit. So I did not buy a copy of MWO for $40... I am typically spending that money every month to explore the "full version features"... Making big changes that negate some of the purchases made is what I don't like.

1) No one is blaming you for any changes to drop deck tonnage, real or imagined.

2) By this point I have spent more money on this title than you are ever likely to. There are often changes that I don't like, but they arent a "slap in the face" to people who have spent money on the game (or rather, in the case of drop deck tonnage, that apparently means just you). The reality is that whenever PGI make a change, they hope it is one that players both like and accept as it keeps them engaged with their product and more likely to spend more money.

3) If you understand the business model as well as you profess, then you have no excuse to use that as the basis of your complaint having already shelled out and splashed the cash.


In conclusion. We all want a better game. Drop deck tonnage really is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things and whether or not it changes this patch, it is more likely than not to get adjusted slightly over time as it has been in the past. It is not a "big change". Additionally, spending money on MWO doesn't win you anything. Get over yourself.

Edited by NextGame, 15 March 2016 - 04:37 AM.

[STEF_]

ReemusX, on 15 March 2016 - 03:18 AM, said:

Was looking over the patch notes for today's update.... Haven't had a chance to really read up...

In CW....is the tonnage for drop deck dropping from 260 down to 235 now? Did I read that right? Or does it have something to do with the new trials coming in?

I really hope it isn't dropping.

aaaaaaaaaand I do really hope tonnage drops down.

From months there was no point to bring a light in CW (unless for the ones who like to bring silly 100 tonners and slowing down the entire team).

Also, if you spent 60 bucks on new mechs...it really means nothing. Go in solo que.
(or do u prefer to be carried? )

[Elkfire]

OP, why do you use ellipses so much? It just makes it seem like you're forgetting what you were talking about mid-sentence, trailing off, then finding your place again.

Edited by Elkfire, 15 March 2016 - 05:14 AM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

I bought 3 Direwhales and a Jenner with the expectation that drop deck tonnage would increase to 330 tons....

[Triordinant]

240 tons was always the perfect number because average 'mech tonnage is 60 (minimum 20 + maximum 100 = 120 divided by 2 = 60) and 60 x 4 = 240.

[Cryzak]

Clans doesnt have 20t mech. Im hoping to get 2x kodiak and 2x 30 to my deck(or 20t if its comes lower tonnage)

[Xavori]

kesmai, on 15 March 2016 - 04:11 AM, said:

Default drop deck...

though i would not be against a lower tonnage, could be interesting.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I haz dream of 2 Kodiak's and 2 Arctic Cheetah's come May and lower weight completely blows that up.

It also blows up my plans for later today of having 3 Archers and a Crab in my dropdeck

[Sjorpha]

I think a 235 ton limit would be a lot more interesting and fun that the current 260, which is way too high and leads to boring dropdecks of 4 heavies being the meta.

Unfortunately it looks like it's only the default trial deck that is meant. Shame.