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I Want To Be Able To Donate C-Bills To Teammates At The End Of Matches


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#1 Xavori

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:24 PM

As an Archer pilot for at least the rest of the week, I want to show my appreciation for light mechs with narcs and/or tags who light up targets for me (espec narcs as they work better but pay less).

So I think we should all tweet Russ and demand PGI give us a button on the final score page where we can toss 10k to 50k of our match earnings to a teammate we think especially deserves some extra c-bills.

Also, include pictures of kittens when you tweet him. Preferably kittens in mech armor shooting laser beams out of their eyes.

#2 MrJeffers

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:32 PM

Won't happen - too easy to exploit.

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> donate ~5 million Cbills to main. Repeat.

Or for slightly more time investment

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> Play through cadet bonus -> donate ~25 million Cbills to main. Repeat.

#3 no one

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:43 PM

It's cool, OP. It's the thought that counts.

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I've been using NARCs a bit today, and honestly they ARE pretty terrible. There's very little chance of even hitting a target with a NARC unless it's tremendously slow or at point blank range. Once you've hit a target with NARC there's an even worse chance that your team will have the proper range, angle or situational awareness to use that NARC. LRMs in general seem to be pretty pathetic weapons, considering the tons of ammo they waste with inaccurate, imprecise fire. In the last five games I've landed dozens of NARCs and gotten literally no bonuses from them. So... it's still the thought that counts OP, but.... What the hell, PGI?

Edited by no one, 24 March 2016 - 06:30 PM.


#4 3xnihilo

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:49 PM

View PostMrJeffers, on 24 March 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Won't happen - too easy to exploit.

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> donate ~5 million Cbills to main. Repeat.

Or for slightly more time investment

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> Play through cadet bonus -> donate ~25 million Cbills to main. Repeat.


Not if you have to donate on the final score page. Like we do now toreport someone or friend them. I have been leveling Archers and those NARCing lights are worth their weight in cbills.

#5 MrJeffers

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 04:53 PM

View Post3xnihilo, on 24 March 2016 - 04:49 PM, said:

Not if you have to donate on the final score page. Like we do now toreport someone or friend them. I have been leveling Archers and those NARCing lights are worth their weight in cbills.


Sync dropping two of your own accounts isn't difficult. Or donate to a friend, who then donates to your main later keeping a cut of the C-Bills. This would be seriously easy to exploit, and within/between a unit it could be farmed in a way that wouldn't look so obvious.

#6 Coolant

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 05:40 PM

I don't know about the demand part, but it's admirable to want to donate Cbills...it should be a feature to do be about to do that.

Edited by Coolant, 24 March 2016 - 05:40 PM.


#7 xWiredx

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 05:42 PM

Unnecessary idea is unnecessary.

Also, there is an entire separate section of the forums for this.

#8 Josef Koba

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 06:14 PM

Yeah, I get that it's easy to exploit, because that's all games have become to some people anymore. But I would like to be able to gift some C-bills to my newbie, cash poor friends who haven't the time or the skill (yet) to purchase anything and are stuck piloting trial mechs (the quality of which has admittedly improved). I'm sitting on a pile of cash that I never spend, and it would be nice to help them in the rare moments we all get to drop together. It would certainly help them. But yeah...exploits.

#9 Xavori

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 06:15 PM

View PostMrJeffers, on 24 March 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Won't happen - too easy to exploit.

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> donate ~5 million Cbills to main. Repeat.

Or for slightly more time investment

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> Play through cadet bonus -> donate ~25 million Cbills to main. Repeat.


Except I said from the final score page specifically to make it me donating from match earnings, not a cut from my total c-bills.

View PostxWiredx, on 24 March 2016 - 05:42 PM, said:

Unnecessary idea is unnecessary.

Also, there is an entire separate section of the forums for this.


Ya. I wasn't so much expecting anyone from PGI to read that section. However, if we get a bunch of tweets to Russ, maybe he'll read those.

Especially if they have lasermech kittens attached to them :D

#10 sycocys

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 06:22 PM

View PostMrJeffers, on 24 March 2016 - 04:53 PM, said:


Sync dropping two of your own accounts isn't difficult. Or donate to a friend, who then donates to your main later keeping a cut of the C-Bills. This would be seriously easy to exploit, and within/between a unit it could be farmed in a way that wouldn't look so obvious.

Seriously, do the math on how long it would take to transfer 25 million c-bills at even 50k a pop.

# of matches + match time = no one would do it.

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Did the math for you - at an optimistic 7 minutes a match (not including waiting for drops) it would take 58 hours.

More math - if you were a poor performer and only raking in 500k an hour, in 58 hours you'd make 29 million c-bills.

^if that's your performance level having 1 dead player on your team every match is going to drastically cut into that.

If you are using an alt to transfer to a friend and then back to you at a later time you will be at a huge net loss. 58 hours lost + another 58 hours in transfering funds + cadet and tutorial time.

Edited by sycocys, 24 March 2016 - 06:30 PM.


#11 Idealsuspect

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 06:43 PM

View PostMrJeffers, on 24 March 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Won't happen - too easy to exploit.

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> donate ~5 million Cbills to main. Repeat.

Or for slightly more time investment

Create alt account -> do tutorial -> Play through cadet bonus -> donate ~25 million Cbills to main. Repeat.


How exploit it if a good dev release this feature they will impose restrictions ...
Like be able to give only money YOU JUST DID WON in this match
Of course another restriction like : not give more than 25% for each player you want ...

And maybe a last restriction like be not able to give more than 50% of your total incomes every match.

But yea easy to exploit if its PGI who release this without basic rules ofc Posted Image

#12 EgoSlayer

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 07:16 PM

View Postsycocys, on 24 March 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

Seriously, do the math on how long it would take to transfer 25 million c-bills at even 50k a pop.

# of matches + match time = no one would do it.

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Did the math for you - at an optimistic 7 minutes a match (not including waiting for drops) it would take 58 hours.

More math - if you were a poor performer and only raking in 500k an hour, in 58 hours you'd make 29 million c-bills.

^if that's your performance level having 1 dead player on your team every match is going to drastically cut into that.

If you are using an alt to transfer to a friend and then back to you at a later time you will be at a huge net loss. 58 hours lost + another 58 hours in transfering funds + cadet and tutorial time.


25 million might be a stretch, but your math still sucks.. At 7 minutes a match it's about 3 hours to get 20.5 million on a new account. 25 matches for the cadet bonus of 12.5 million and the 5 million for the tutorial puts you at 17.5 million in 3 hours without any of the in match earnings. At 1 million C-bills an hour for match earnings (likely higher because of seal clubbing) that puts it at ~20.5. Having just a few people at a time doing that gets 40-100 million pretty easy in a short weekend session.

Not even remotely near 58 hours, and a short enough time that some people would do it. But the 5 million for the tutorial bonus alone that takes <20 minutes would be the best dollars/hour.

#13 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 10:13 PM

View PostXavori, on 24 March 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

As an Archer pilot for at least the rest of the week, I want to show my appreciation for light mechs with narcs and/or tags who light up targets for me (espec narcs as they work better but pay less).

So I think we should all tweet Russ and demand PGI give us a button on the final score page where we can toss 10k to 50k of our match earnings to a teammate we think especially deserves some extra c-bills.

Also, include pictures of kittens when you tweet him. Preferably kittens in mech armor shooting laser beams out of their eyes.


Yeah... you know how chinese companies sell gold in wow? Yeah... they'd do that in mwo and undercut PGI's price on cbills by farming new accounts.

#14 ReemusX

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Posted 24 March 2016 - 11:06 PM

At least have the ability to donate space bacon....

View PostNarcissistic Martyr, on 24 March 2016 - 10:13 PM, said:


Yeah... you know how chinese companies sell gold in wow? Yeah... they'd do that in mwo and undercut PGI's price on cbills by farming new accounts.

Not if Trump takes over, they would pay us to give us CBills or something like that...

Edited by ReemusX, 24 March 2016 - 11:12 PM.






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