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[LegendaryArticuno]

Using the following build and really it should be a decent all-rounder... but it just sucks.

[Moomtazz]

That's really slow and pretty hot.

[Clownwarlord]

LegendaryArticuno, on 18 March 2016 - 08:10 PM, said:

Using the following build and really it should be a decent all-rounder... but it just sucks.

My build would be something like this:ARC-5S

If you are having heat issues you can chain fire SRM2s in a brawling. You have some range with large lasers, and you still have two medium pulses and STD engine for when your side torsos pop.

By also going with SRM2s you do not need Artemis. This will save you some space and tonnage for ammunition. Also by walking away from large pulses you can gain so much more in tonnage to increase engine.

This build I think would fit my play style because I favor brawling but not being the first brawler into the fray.

Edited by clownwarlord, 18 March 2016 - 09:19 PM.

[LegendaryArticuno]

clownwarlord, on 18 March 2016 - 09:16 PM, said:

My build would be something like this:ARC-5S

If you are having heat issues you can chain fire SRM2s in a brawling. You have some range with large lasers, and you still have two medium pulses and STD engine for when your side torsos pop.

By also going with SRM2s you do not need Artemis. This will save you some space and tonnage for ammunition. Also by walking away from large pulses you can gain so much more in tonnage to increase engine.

This build I think would fit my play style because I favor brawling but not being the first brawler into the fray.

Yeah I don't think this mech can pull off 3x LPLs unless I ditch the SRMs entirely. I'll continue to experiment, but your build looks promising. Thanks!

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Something tells me you've never piloted a Vindicator.

[Novakaine]

Archers should be the premier LRM Mech.
But noooooo that was just to damn OP for PGI.
Yet they let 74 pt alpha jenners run rampant.
I believe what we are seeing is the beginning of the the PGI Care Bear Mechs.
I can only imagine the QQ when the Kodiak hits.
Oh dat Clanker rage.
And the end is nigh.
Bad move PGI

[sycocys]

I'd probably go something like this. Or swap the 6's for 4's and go with MPL.

[Gas Guzzler]

You can do 5 SRM 6 with artemis and SPL. Lots of up front brawl damage.

[Novakaine]

The Archer is not built for brawling don't be fooled.

[sycocys]

Gas Guzzler, on 18 March 2016 - 11:17 PM, said:

You can do 5 SRM 6 with artemis and SPL. Lots of up front brawl damage.

That ghost heat though! That's why I'd use the single srm2, also the additional heatsinks.

I don't have the mech though, but if its got splat points, its getting splat loaded. I would even consider ditching the ML's entirely and just running an extra 4 tons of ammo because why not really - then you can have the range and CD for the srm6s. Or a xl325 and artemis with 13 tons of ammo, just because you can.

[Damia Savon]

Novakaine, on 18 March 2016 - 11:20 PM, said:

The Archer is not built for brawling don't be fooled.

However it should be since it was more durable than a number of assault mechs. The archers just did not have the weapons for a brawl.

[Alistair Winter]

You'd rather have the CPLT-C4, and put those 2 measly energy hardpoints in the CT?

It's not the worst mech in the game.

[dervishx5]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 18 March 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

Something tells me you've never piloted a Vindicator.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Novakaine, on 18 March 2016 - 10:02 PM, said:

Archers should be the premier LRM Mech.
But noooooo that was just to damn OP for PGI.
Yet they let 74 pt alpha jenners run rampant.
I believe what we are seeing is the beginning of the the PGI Care Bear Mechs.
I can only imagine the QQ when the Kodiak hits.
Oh dat Clanker rage.
And the end is nigh.
Bad move PGI

I'll be honest I'd give them all the money to put a giant rainbow on my kodiac's tummy.

[LordNothing]

i think the problem is people thinking the archer is some kind of laser vomit platform. couple medium lasers and a tag should be all the energy you need to carry. the rest should be a mix of lerms and srms. but build how you like.

[Wrathful Scythe]

The "I hope my team doesn't suck"

Play it safe, stay with the group and try to stay out of fire. You won't carry the game but it should suffice for leveling the mech.
Thoses LRMs are chainfired as a support weapon as your LPLs will do the most damage. Haven't tried that one, yet but it is the build I plan on using.

[sycocys]

Gas Guzzler got me thinking about it, 5 SRM6/a + 2 tons and 4 MPL is actually a pretty solid loadout for pug play. -- its even not all that terrible for CW, ~600-650 damage in 8 shots and then move on to your next mech.

Enough ammo for 7.5 alphas, enough speed to maneuver in/out to land them. You post roughly 600 damage if you put your shots on target (accounting for some random missed missiles) and can output that in quick order. Takes care of holding your own and leaves you with MPL after you burn out your ammo to do some minor damage adding until you drop.

Edited by sycocys, 19 March 2016 - 05:47 AM.

[Johny Rocket]

Kinda the same argument about whether to put lrms on an Atlas, yeah you can do it but that's not what the mech was ever intended for. You want a brawler this is not your mech, sorry its just not.

Try this build and run it in a support/flanker role.

[El Bandito]

Haven't played the 5S yet, but judging from what I have experienced from 2R and 5W, the 5S could indeed be the worst Archer variant. But worst mech? Nope. Not by a long shot.

[jss78]

Tractor Joe's build above is literally god-tier compared to anything you can do on the Vindicator 1X. So nope, not the worst mech in the game, not even close.