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[Wolfways]

CapperDeluxe, on 22 March 2016 - 05:17 AM, said:

Must have Laser AMS!!!!

Aren't clans supposed to have laser AMS? (like they're not hot enough...)

Edited by Wolfways, 22 March 2016 - 05:19 AM.

[mogs01gt]

That video shows the flaw with that map. If those mechs all alpha'd that Archer with lasers and Gauss, he would have been dead quicker.

[LORD ORION]

Fail pilot did a great job at dodging cover so his radar derp wouldn't kick in.

At one point it looks like he might make it when he turns towards the left side dip to block LoS, but no, he decides to continue backing up in the open, directly from the angle the LRMs are coming from.

[Chrome Magnus]

mogs01gt, on 22 March 2016 - 05:23 AM, said:

That video shows the flaw with that map. If those mechs all alpha'd that Archer with lasers and Gauss, he would have been dead quicker.

Not from that distance and without los...

[Evil Rat Bastard]

Nothing wrong with the map, something wrong with the player. I haven't been playing too long and I know better than to stand in the open like that. I would love to see more maps like that one. Of course, I'd also love to see city maps where you could hide inside/destroy buildings, too...

[Pjwned]

BabyCakes666, on 21 March 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

i can deal with lrms quite well but others struggle lrm spam is just hard to deal with when the pug team has no counters and no one mounts ams lost of the time

Well then maybe PUGs should start bringing AMS and additionally not be in terrible positions where they get rained on for days.

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and if ams killed lrm5 that be great but more the 5 missiles should get though or it will get op D:

3 ams will kill lrm15 spam but it runs on ammo so it will not last for ever so it will be lrm vs ams spam

ams boat hmmmm

AMS is already very small and lightweight and mitigates a decent amount of damage, it doesn't need to be better than it is really.

[Galenit]

CapperDeluxe, on 22 March 2016 - 05:17 AM, said:

Must have Laser AMS!!!!

No ammo, but heat ...

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As its heat build-up is high, the unit with an LAMS must carry enough heat sinks to counter the higher output it produces
(5 heat points for Clan, 7 for Inner Sphere).

I think, i would still take the normal ams and some ammo ...

(2,5 dhs for clan-lams, 3,5 dhs for is-lams,
i take 3,5 tons ams-ammo with my kitfox with 3x ams,
with clan-lams i would need 8 dhs to not be overheated by 3xclams,
thats 16000 rounds of normal ams ammo!).

Edited by Galenit, 23 March 2016 - 07:12 PM.

[Lynx7725]

Hmm. Laser AMS. Good, I support bringing in that equipnment, and I say it as a LRM Specialist.

Why you may ask... because it gives my LRMs more utility.

On a hot map, I see your Laser AMS blinking away, I know it's generating heat for you. So I shoot you some more to push your heat levels up further. And further. And further. Until you overheat and shut down. Then I wait for you to restart, and shoot you more to make you shut down again and keep you locked down in place.

If you are brawling with my teammates, I shoot you to make you overheat too. Then you get to shutdown in front of my teammates! And when you start back up, I shoot you some more to make you overheat again! LOCKDOWN!

Yay for more utility!

Which would you prefer to bet on, my ammo load or your heat sinks under combat conditions?

[Clownwarlord]

Everyone still taking archers then cause for lrms. Once new mech comes out this problem will start to die out.

[Alardus]

LORD ORION, on 22 March 2016 - 05:24 AM, said:

Fail pilot did a great job at dodging cover so his radar derp wouldn't kick in.

At one point it looks like he might make it when he turns towards the left side dip to block LoS, but no, he decides to continue backing up in the open, directly from the angle the LRMs are coming from.

To be fair, indirect fire is why sometimes you can back up in line with the incoming missiles and still be missed.