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[Navid A1]

Darian DelFord, on 22 March 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

OK, so taking a ride in my Jenner harassing the back lines. Hide behind a building then in a corner and I keep taking fire and I can not for the life of me see where the hell I am being shot at or by whom. The one who killed me was in a Cicada. But could not see him anywhere. Looked at the vid for a good 20 minutes trying to see a flash of any weapons fire. Tell me what you think

Weirdness starts at 15 seconds.

Its a cicada from very very far away.

1st sign: ER LL beams from your 10 o'clock around 0:10 mark:



Sign2: the actual Cicada in the flesh:

[Sigilum Sanctum]

I can't stand Polar because of how goddamn bright it is, as such at a distance, lasers turn invisible.

[SplashDown]

Navid A1, on 22 March 2016 - 09:09 PM, said:

Its a cicada from very very far away.

1st sign: ER LL beams from your 10 o'clock around 0:10 mark:



Sign2: the actual Cicada in the flesh:

Nice work Navid A1

[Tarogato]

Yeah, it's a Cicada in H13. I thought it was a Raven, but the guy who got the kill was in a CDA. You couldn't see the lasers because it's Polar Highlands. I can't even see my own lasers on that map half the time.

[Revis Volek]

I guess more reason to play in Thermal ALL THE TIME on that map...

For some reason, on Polar Crylands you can see across the whole map in Thermal, no other map can you even see out past 450m.

Edited by Revis Volek, 22 March 2016 - 11:15 PM.

[Thunderbird Anthares]

at the very least the damage direction indicator was screwed up half the time

[Aresye]

Not gonna lie, even IF the Cicada is the true answer, that video creeps me the **** out!

So many unanswered questions like:

- Why was this Cicada pilot so far from his teammates?
- Why did this Cicada pilot never shoot any time OP was directly facing him?
- Why did this Cicada pilot remain completely still?
- Why was this Cicada pilot shown as "Disconnected" at the end of the match?
- Why was OP the only one this Cicada killed?

and the biggest mystery of them all:
- WHERE THE **** DID THOSE MEDIUM LASERS COME FROM?!

Sure, we could accept the "easy" answer that this was likely a clueless pug with advanced zoom doing things that only clueless pugs with advanced zoom do, but what if that's just what this Cicada pilot WANTS us to think?

What if Darian was this Cicada's one true target? Stalking him throughout the match, hiding just outside visible laser range, luring him into a trap, toying with him, and then assassinating him from the back, in an area nobody would likely ever discover his dead mech. Then, without a trace, the pilot disconnects as quietly as they came.

Edited by Aresye, 23 March 2016 - 01:29 AM.

[Ace Selin]

Aresye, on 23 March 2016 - 01:28 AM, said:

What if Darian was this Cicada's one true target? Stalking him throughout the match, hiding just outside visible laser range, luring him into a trap, toying with him, and then assassinating him from the back, in an area nobody would likely ever discover his dead mech. Then, without a trace, the pilot disconnects as quietly as they came.

Made me laugh from reading these forums for the 3rd time tonight, well played good sir, well played.

[Lord Perversor]

Troutmonkey, on 22 March 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

That is very odd. It's either a graphical bug or someone found a way to fall through the map. I'd send that in for sure.

Actually looking again it seems the enemy might be in G12 somewhere. Possibly a Cicada 3M with ERLL and ECM poking. When you have your back against the wall you take front hits.

4 seconds in, hits on your right from main group
6 seconds in, hits on your right coming from G12 / H12
11, from G12 again
13, some from main group on your right
21 seems the strangest as you're looking in the right direction. It's hard to tell with the quality of youtube

Yeah pretty much that's the culprit looks like a shadowcat, it also can be seen briefly at the right window before the jenner dies in the video, i must agree the Er-Lasers don't shows up when it should.

[Curccu]

Bah you guys already added tons of evidence pics but since I already did mine also... I HAVE TO post it also.



PS. to OP just watch the video in HD and 25% speed and you can see what happens pretty easily... blue beams flashing around you etc.

Edited by Curccu, 23 March 2016 - 03:13 AM.

[jss78]

After reading this thread, I'm now afraid to go play the game.

Phantom Cicadas, lasers from nowhere, creepy stuff.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Troutmonkey, on 22 March 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

That is very odd. It's either a graphical bug or someone found a way to fall through the map. I'd send that in for sure.

Actually looking again it seems the enemy might be in G12 somewhere. Possibly a Cicada 3M with ERLL and ECM poking. When you have your back against the wall you take front hits.

4 seconds in, hits on your right from main group
6 seconds in, hits on your right coming from G12 / H12
11, from G12 again
13, some from main group on your right
21 seems the strangest as you're looking in the right direction. It's hard to tell with the quality of youtube

Quality of Youtube, more like the Quality of that game.

[HerrRed]

Polar also has some rendering bugs. Twice now I had to apply zoom otherwise the enemy mech wouldn't render. Once it was a shadow cat sending lrms my way. I looked at where they were coming from and couldn't see nothing. When I got hit again, I zoomed in and he literally was just standing in the open and he poped in to view. Another timr was a Cicada and I kept taking fire and failed to see him. Again, when zoom was applied, lo and behold. There it was. I thought this was a known bug.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Cloaking device. Had the same thing happen once.

[Mechteric]

The last weapon you were hit with was ER Large Laser, no doubt it was an ECM Cicada (since the guy that killed you was piloting that according to the scoreboard).

The problem is you were spinning so fast, expecting to see an enemy up close, not realizing it could be a sniper at a distance that won't appear on your radar. Becoming good at visual identification of targets at range can be pretty important, don't become overly reliant on the Red Dorito!!!

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 23 March 2016 - 05:13 AM.

[Kaveli]

Youre getting hit the entire time but you never looked in the direction of the red indicators that show up when you're hit from the back or sides.

[Troutmonkey]

jss78, on 23 March 2016 - 03:17 AM, said:

After reading this thread, I'm now afraid to go play the game.

Phantom Cicadas, lasers from nowhere, creepy stuff.

Spoiler

Edited by Troutmonkey, 23 March 2016 - 05:29 AM.

[Troutmonkey]

Navid A1, on 22 March 2016 - 09:09 PM, said:

Its a cicada from very very far away.

1st sign: ER LL beams from your 10 o'clock around 0:10 mark:

Watched the video in 1080p at half speed and still nearly missed it. Would have never have seen it had I not known to look for it.

Now that I know what to look for, you can see the effects of the other shots

Edited by Troutmonkey, 23 March 2016 - 05:38 AM.

[Tristan Winter]

Notice the way the Jenner falls when it dies. Back, and to the left. Back... and to the left.

Bear with me, guys...

There had to have been a second shooter!

.. behind the bushes, on the gravelly road.

[mogs01gt]

Yet another reason why Lasers need totally reworked. Maybe its not a laser issue but lately I've been seeing phantom damage or no indication of incoming damage.


IMO ranges of lasers need halved.