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[Ted Wayz]

Have to say I really enjoy the 5W and 3S. The faux lurm boats (Tempest and 2R) not so much.

Just pure missile delight. Once basic'd I haven't had too many issues with heat on the 3S and put my modules towards the large pulse. Hopefully I can get enough reps to climb the leaderboard, but Easter so we will see.

Such good lurm boats. Errr, I mean they suck so buff them some more PGI!

BTW, at about 1800 units sold tracking on the leaderboard it looks like another big drop in sales from the Rifleman.

[Mawai]

Ted Wayz, on 27 March 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

Have to say I really enjoy the 5W and 3S. The faux lurm boats (Tempest and 2R) not so much.

Just pure missile delight. Once basic'd I haven't had too many issues with heat on the 3S and put my modules towards the large pulse. Hopefully I can get enough reps to climb the leaderboard, but Easter so we will see.

Such good lurm boats. Errr, I mean they suck so buff them some more PGI!

BTW, at about 1800 units sold tracking on the leaderboard it looks like another big drop in sales from the Rifleman.

Not necessarily ... I haven't even had a chance to drop once in my Archers ... hard to say for sure how many folks play time is being impacted by the Easter weekend. So although sales may be down it is not as cut and dried as might seem.

[Brewmen]

Ted Wayz, on 27 March 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

Have to say I really enjoy the 5W and 3S. The faux lurm boats (Tempest and 2R) not so much.

Just pure missile delight. Once basic'd I haven't had too many issues with heat on the 3S and put my modules towards the large pulse. Hopefully I can get enough reps to climb the leaderboard, but Easter so we will see.

Such good lurm boats. Errr, I mean they suck so buff them some more PGI!

BTW, at about 1800 units sold tracking on the leaderboard it looks like another big drop in sales from the Rifleman.

There is no 3s. its a 5s but is on the leader boards as 3s, you must be on the leader boards if your doing that well. I'm a still fairly new to the game, was ranked 4th on the 5s (3s on leader board) I have since dropped to 11th I think and still dropping since I'm still working on mastering my archers. working on the 5w now and then onto the Tempest and 2r's.

what do you carry on your Tempest? I'm going to change up my load outs on my Tempest and 2r to see if I can do better. already know what I'm going to try but curious to what others are using.

My opinion is the 5w and 5s are good, not great. the other variants especially the (S) and the Tempest I would save your $ and wait until they come out with C-bills. The basic pack you get 2 good mechs and if you have to have some Archers is the best deal.

Edited by Brewmen, 27 March 2016 - 11:24 AM.

[Yosharian]

5W seems like the only reason you'd buy this chassis currently (since the quirks are not overly special from what I've heard?).

And even then... woah it's a LURM BOAT. The worst type of boat in the game.

[Brewmen]

Yosharian, on 27 March 2016 - 11:04 AM, said:

5W seems like the only reason you'd buy this chassis currently (since the quirks are not overly special from what I've heard?).

And even then... woah it's a LURM BOAT. The worst type of boat in the game.

I like the 5s also. If you go all Lrm on the 5w you will be dying quite often. Need to carry at least 4 SRM4 for the lights and mediums that are looking for that easy Archer kill.

[Damia Savon]

True Archers don't run LRM5s

[Bishop Steiner]

Yosharian, on 27 March 2016 - 11:04 AM, said:

5W seems like the only reason you'd buy this chassis currently (since the quirks are not overly special from what I've heard?).

And even then... woah it's a LURM BOAT. The worst type of boat in the game.

It's not a Group/Comp chassis, for sure.

5W is a lot of fun in solo queue, when you run mixed 5xLRM5/4xSRM4, and a very versatile machine. I've been enjoying the heck out of hunting down and killing the pure SRM and pure LRM versions I see in match. Tempest.... is actually pretty solid, though without mobility quirks, I find I have to be doubly cognizant of enemy Lights, as it has more trouble fighting them off than the nimbler models.

Really the only "Son, I am Disappoint" for me of the crowd is the 2R. The lack of quirks to make the LRM15/20 more enticing (could care less about cooldown, range and heat gen, gimme spread reduction!) makes it a little sad to run the IS's "premier" missile boat)... and the odd asymmetrical hardpoints deny me the ability to maximize running 4x LRM10 which are far superior to 2xLRM20.

But at least it is (with the re-quirkening) mostly what it's supposed to be, (even if some people are either too thick, or intentionally obtuse to get it)... a relatively tough, dependable support Mech. Of course, still waiting for those experts to actually break the top 50 in the leaderboard to show us noobs how LURMing is done....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 27 March 2016 - 05:28 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

Damia Savon, on 27 March 2016 - 02:15 PM, said:

True Archers don't run LRM5s

Yeah, wish they had done more with heat gen quirks to make the larger tubes more viable. ou are forced into large tubes on the 2R and Tempest due to the lack of missile hard points and they tend to overheat.

And good catch on the 3S being the 5S. When I started the post I originally put 5S but then was mislead by the leaderboard. Where did they even come up with 3S.

And I never said the numbers were absolute, just tracking lower than previous events. My guess though is they are not too far off.

[Ted Wayz]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 March 2016 - 02:35 PM, said:

But at least it is (with the re-quirkening) mostly what it's supposed to be, (even if some people are either too thick, or intentionally obtuse to get it)... a relatively tough, dependable support Mech. Of course, still waiting for those experts to actually break the top 50 in the leaderboard to show us noobs who LURMing is done....

314 after 12 matches in the 5S. If I could get another 60 matches in this weekend I would be top 10. I can say that with confidence.

And my damage has been the same before and after. If you know how to lurm then the quirks they gave really don't help much. But then some are too obtuse to understand that. And they could play 200 matches and never see the leaderboard. I can say that with confidence too.

But hey if they play enough they too can be Tier 1 and become even moar tryhard.

[Madcap72]

7x LRM5's on the 5W had me up to 25th place on the board, now I've slipped to 47th.

[Ted Wayz]

Madcap72, on 27 March 2016 - 03:50 PM, said:

7x LRM5's on the 5W had me up to 25th place on the board, now I've slipped to 47th.

Using the 5S, but my 5W rocks 2 x 3 LRM5's chain fired backed up by 3 x srm4.

[Damia Savon]

Ted Wayz, on 27 March 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

Yeah, wish they had done more with heat gen quirks to make the larger tubes more viable. ou are forced into large tubes on the 2R and Tempest due to the lack of missile hard points and they tend to overheat.

And good catch on the 3S being the 5S. When I started the post I originally put 5S but then was mislead by the leaderboard. Where did they even come up with 3S.

And I never said the numbers were absolute, just tracking lower than previous events. My guess though is they are not too far off.

Heat Gen and spread would have been nice. I just want my archers to be archers. At least I have my C1 still.

[Ted Wayz]

Talk about missed opportunities. Was in a match with Demonic in his 5S and didn't ask his build.

Doh!

[Brewmen]

i Would like to see what he is using also, I have 5-lrm5 and 4 mpl's with Bap on mine, works pretty well. He's been #1 when I was #4. I have already dropped to #13 and he is still #1. Hopefully I'll finish mastering my 2R and my Tempest tonight so I can play my 5s some more and see if I can get him back up to top 5. Still fairly new, I can pilot the mechs but need to still learn the strategies and in and outs of the maps more. Can use a bit more patience also

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 March 2016 - 02:35 PM, said:

But at least it is (with the re-quirkening) mostly what it's supposed to be, (even if some people are either too thick, or intentionally obtuse to get it)... a relatively tough, dependable support Mech. Of course, still waiting for those experts to actually break the top 50 in the leaderboard to show us noobs how LURMing is done....

Still saying this? I just reached #41, in the 5W with pure LRM build, within just 13 matches participating in this tournament.

Pre-Tourney.



Currently.

Edited by El Bandito, 27 March 2016 - 07:03 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

El Bandito, on 27 March 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:

Still saying this? I just reached #41, in the 5W with pure LRM build, within just 13 matches participating in this tournament.

Pre-Tourney.



Currently.

And? Was anyone referring to you?

Nope. But hey, feel free to keep on stroking.

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 27 March 2016 - 07:21 PM, said:

And? Was anyone referring to you?

Nope. But hey, feel free to keep on stroking.

You wanted people showing you how it is done, I did. So, learn to lurm.

Edited by El Bandito, 27 March 2016 - 07:53 PM.

[Ted Wayz]

So 30 matches and I am around 77th in the 5S. The main issue is I am not having the peak games you need to score in the event, mostly because I am not getting the solo kills.

Wish I had some more time to fudge around. Wish this had been last weekend instead of Easter weekend. Happy hunting all.

[Ted Wayz]

Brewmen, on 27 March 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

i Would like to see what he is using also, I have 5-lrm5 and 4 mpl's with Bap on mine, works pretty well. He's been #1 when I was #4. I have already dropped to #13 and he is still #1. Hopefully I'll finish mastering my 2R and my Tempest tonight so I can play my 5s some more and see if I can get him back up to top 5. Still fairly new, I can pilot the mechs but need to still learn the strategies and in and outs of the maps more. Can use a bit more patience also

Yeah I switched to your build and a STD which improved my average but lowered my peak games. Was running XL with 2 x LPL 2 x MPL and 5 x LRM5. Probably stood of stuck with it but match maker put me on a bad streak against ruthless people that loved hitting my ST.

[Not A Real RAbbi]

Ted Wayz, on 27 March 2016 - 10:41 AM, said:

Have to say I really enjoy the 5W and 3S. The faux lurm boats (Tempest and 2R) not so much.

To each his own. Haven't found a S build yet that I like. Suggestions?

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Just pure missile delight. Once basic'd I haven't had too many issues with heat on the 3S and put my modules towards the large pulse. Hopefully I can get enough reps to climb the leaderboard, but Easter so we will see.

Such good lurm boats. Errr, I mean they suck so buff them some more PGI!

BTW, at about 1800 units sold tracking on the leaderboard it looks like another big drop in sales from the Rifleman.

Honestly, there are probably a few factors at play there.

1.) Holiday weekend, and fewer folks finding time to grind out ANOTHER leaderboard.
2.) ARC is a missile boat in a game in which the players generally dislike (well, DESPISE) missile boats.
3.) This wasn't going to be as awesome a mech as the MAD or WHM, and we all knew it.
4.) The shiny new-from-the-factory coating is starting to wear off of the 'ICON' mechs, and folks are wearing out on spending the $$$ on them.

I mean, I dig it. I can afford to spend a little $$$ on the game. I pat myself on the back, that by spending a little $$$ I'm helping PGI fulfill a childhood dream (my fault for missing out on ALL of the other MW titles, BTW). PGI keeps on putting up this sort of content. Paul and Russ and Tina and all get their paychecks. Life is good.