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Lore: Com Guard Cw Drop Deck, What Mechs?


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#1 Sunstruck

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 01:07 PM

I found this list of Comstar mechs http://mwomercs.com/...r-league-mechs/

Also was looking at this Tukayyid scenario page http://www.sarna.net...cenario_pack%29

For lore reasons I wanted to have some fun making a IS Tukayyid CW drop deck, I have a King Crab with dual AC20s, and a Black Knight but I'm not sure what medium and light mechs lore wise were used in the battle of Tukayyid that we have avaliable on MWO.

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 01:11 PM

Crab (50 tons) was used in the battle of Tukayyid, piloted by Judith who became Star Captain Trent's bondsman (for CSJ).

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 04:03 PM

The Kintaro that comes with a Narc beacon was SLDF/Comstar too. You could probably get away with putting any of the SLDF variants (TBT-3C, etc...) on the Comstar side.

If you don't mind Fakery you could also morph MWO chassis into Com Guard mechs. The Trebuchet can easily become a Starslayer, or turn an Awesome into a Thug.

Edited by Lootee, 30 March 2016 - 04:15 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2016 - 05:27 PM

ComStar had almost all of the IS Mechs in its arsenal, with the notable exception of many Royal-variants and many new IS Mechs which were produced after the recovery of the Helm Memory Core. The Steiner-Davions and ComStar were not exactly friends before Tukayyid, so no Wolfhounds for example.

Regarding Light and Medium Mechs present in MWO you can choose of these:

- Locust LCT-1V
- Spider SDR-5V
- UrbanMech UM-R60; -R63
- Firestarter FS9-H; -M
- Panther PNTF-8Z
- Blackjack BJ-1; -2
- Phoenix Hawk PXH-1 (soon)
- Crab CRB-27
- Hunchback HBK-4G; -5M
- Griffin GRF-1N
- Kintaro KTO-19
- Shadow Hawk SHD-2H
- Wolverine WVR-6R

(From the MUL, the Tukayyid SB RAT, and ER:3052 RAT)

The Star League vintage Mechs are more iconic when it comes to ComStar, so I would pick some of them. The Crab is imho a must.

However an argument can be made in favour of ComStar having a few more Mechs from the Star League era, albeit in very, very low numbers since the sources listed above are intended for TT gamers, giving them an rough overview of what can be typically fielded. Take the Excalibur EXC-B1 for example: no RAT lists it, because ComStar only had "less than a dozen" of them and most ComGuards never saw one. But we do know they had them. Since ComStar heavily drew from SL caches it is fair to assume some SL Mechs were available in similarly low numbers.

Btw., since they are my favourite Mechs and they are an interesting case.... think about the Marauders. ComStar not only had the MAD-3R and its more advanced predecessor, the MAD-1R (perhaps even the -2R; both can be easily reproduced in MWO), but also got field kits from the FWL coverting the outdated MAD-3R into MAD-5M - just in time for the battle of Tukayyid.

Edited by FLG 01, 30 March 2016 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 11:07 PM

Thanks for the help, the Shadow Hawk has been on my list for a while. I'll check out the Crab and as soon as the Marauder is on cbill sale thats another one I wanted to get into for lore reasons anyway.

The only thing that bothers me though is the Matauder's iconic autocannon mount over the CT is missing, but thats a minor thing.

Just curious if theres a specific cammo / color that would best fit Star League or Com Star mechs.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 11:20 PM

View PostSunstruck, on 02 April 2016 - 11:07 PM, said:

Just curious if theres a specific cammo / color that would best fit Star League or Com Star mechs.

White for the ComGuard.
Green for the SLDF.

Very simple. Posted Image

#7 FLG 01

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 11:22 PM

The Star League Defense Force uses olive drab for their Mechs (think 70ies NATO), but the ComGuards don't. The ComGuards's parade colour is flat white, and in combat they use camouflage adapted to the local territory. So it is either white or whatever camouflage you like.

Regarding the Marauder's AC.... while the old artwork consistently showed it as CT-mounted, the data and the record sheets have always placed it RT.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 12:10 AM

View PostFLG 01, on 02 April 2016 - 11:22 PM, said:

Regarding the Marauder's AC.... while the old artwork consistently showed it as CT-mounted, the data and the record sheets have always placed it RT.

Not only "the old artwork", but "both the old and the new artwork" show it consistently as CT-mounted. See these pictures:
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Even BattleTech novels talk about "the Marauder's dorsal cannon".

Record sheets for BattleTech units such as 'Mechs, tanks or ASFs are just abstraction of "real" units.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 01:53 AM

View PostSunstruck, on 30 March 2016 - 01:07 PM, said:

I found this list of Comstar mechs http://mwomercs.com/...r-league-mechs/

Also was looking at this Tukayyid scenario page http://www.sarna.net...cenario_pack%29

For lore reasons I wanted to have some fun making a IS Tukayyid CW drop deck, I have a King Crab with dual AC20s, and a Black Knight but I'm not sure what medium and light mechs lore wise were used in the battle of Tukayyid that we have avaliable on MWO.



Here is the thing. The Comguards have access to pretty much any mech ever used by the Royal regiments of the Star League. While some mechs are mor iconicly Comstar due to being exstinct or near exstinct outside of the Comguards.

So if you want a list of mechs the Comguards could use it's anything built for the Star League before the Exodus.

So a short list of mechs not likely to be in Comstar units limited to what we have currently in MWo.

Light mechs: Raven and Wolfhound would probably be next to nonexistent in the Comguards as both designs are from the late succession wars period thus never available to Royal regiments.

The Jenner would be extremely rare as a Draconis Combine origin mech that was not heavily used outside the Kurita space. Same could go for the Commando that was a Lyran Commonwealth mech.

The likely light mechs of the ones we currently have that the Comguards would see in use are the Locust and Firestarter with the very rare example of a Spider.

The more iconic Comguard light mechs we do not currently have in MWo. Mechs like the Falcon,Thorn,Mercury and Mongoose being iconicly Comstar.

As for mediums we are in better shape for selections with two very Iconic league era mechs on our rosters. The Kintaro and Crab are both common designs in Comstar mech regiments.The Griffin Shadowhawk and Wolverine were also very common in the Star League Royal Regiments.

The one medium mech that would be highly unlikely to be in the COmguards is the Vindicator. Being a proprietary mech design of House Liao the VIndicator and it's spare parts are rare outside of Liao controlled space.

The Enforcer and Centurion would also be less common and are generally more commonly encountered in Davion controled space.

For heavy mechs we have the very Comstar centric Black Knight. most of our current heavy mechs could make and appearance in the comguards with a few notable exceptions.

The Cataphract is a post third succession war design and really only ever seen in any numbers in Davion and Liao space. Being originally a Liao design that was captured by Davion forces during the fourth succession war the Cataphract is to new of a design to be present in any significant numbers in the Comguards.

The Dragon is more iconicly Kurita than any other house or unit and would be rare to see in Comstar service.

And the Jagermech is a Davion design that is suppose to be pretty uncommon outside of Fedcom space with a few in service with Liao and Kurita units having been salvaged from battles with Davion forces.

Assault mech? Well we have the Kingcrab and the Highlander being Comstar favorites.The Atlas and Battlemaster would have also seen common use.

The two assault mechs least likely to be used in Comstar mech units are the Zeus a Lyran Commonwealth design that was not widely used by anyone other than the Lyrans and of course the Mauler that is a very recent design (prototypes for the Mauler were in service as early as 3039 ) from the Draconis combine.

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Posted 03 April 2016 - 04:30 AM

This will help you out:

http://masterunitlis...nId=18&EraId=13

Any 'mech on that list is a 'mech that ComStar used between 3050 and 3061. Many of them are already in the game.





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