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#1 feeWAIVER

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:16 PM

I've been without internet for a couple days, and I decided to try to find some Battletech lore on my phone. So with Phase 3 coming, and apparently some incentive to be a loyalist to a faction, I got to thinking....

If there is going to be some incentive for being loyal to a specific faction/clan/house, will there ever be an incentive to pilot the mechs most associated with that faction/clan/house?

Here is an example,
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hunchback
Reading about the Hunchback, it says in the lore:
"The Hunchback was originally designed and produced by Komiyaba/Nissan General Industries and sold throughout the Inner Sphere and Periphery, often fielded as part of medium and assault lances. The company was destroyed as a result of the Succession Wars, but the Hunchback continued to remain popular, especially in the arsenals of House Kurita and House Liao where it fit the dueling nature and all-or-nothing combat styles of the two Successor States."

Again-
but the Hunchback continued to remain popular, especially in the arsenals of House Kurita and House Liao

Shouldn't there be a some form of ingame incentive to run a Hunchback, based on lore, if you are a loyalist to Kurita or Liao? Perhaps even something like bonus C-Bills?

That is just one example, and I'm sure people could dig up more.

Thoughts?

Edited by feeWAIVER, 07 April 2016 - 02:18 PM.


#2 Davers

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:23 PM

Yes, there should be more reason to pilot traditional faction mechs. No, PGI will not add any.

#3 Richard Hazen

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:49 PM

Some of the iconic mechs are not in the game yet unfortunately.

#4 TELEFORCE

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:51 PM

I think that would be cool. It would be easy enough to figure out as there is a master unit list which breaks down every single combat vehicle in lore by faction.
www.masterunitlist.info

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:52 PM

I would love for PGI to add loyalty point bonuses for piloting faction-specific mechs in FW.

#6 TwentyOne

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 02:56 PM

View PostTELEFORCE, on 07 April 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

I think that would be cool. It would be easy enough to figure out as there is a master unit list which breaks down every single combat vehicle in lore by faction.
www.masterunitlist.info


I love how organized battletech is.

Edited by TwentyOne, 07 April 2016 - 02:57 PM.


#7 Crotch RockIt

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 03:02 PM

View PostTwentyOne, on 07 April 2016 - 02:56 PM, said:


I love how organized battletech is.


PGI would still manage to eff it up and generate loads of forum QQ. Their faction mech sales last year were poorly done, for example.

#8 Lupis Volk

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:03 PM

Should there be? Of course. I'd say a 10% XP and Cbill boost.

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:45 PM

Faction mechs should get free Repair & Rearm Posted Image


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#10 Kuritaclan

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:46 PM

View PostLupis Volk, on 07 April 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

Should there be? Of course. I'd say a 10% XP and Cbill boost.

+LP?

We are talking about factions. Soooo "Faction"/Community Warfare is the thing.

#11 TheCharlatan

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:00 PM

Now i'm happy because i discovered that almost all my favourite IS mechs are available to the FRR. Posted Image

#12 Thunderbird Anthares

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:03 PM

When there is reason to pilot battlemechs like battlemechs instead of 'big stompy robots', then maybe :-)

#13 Sagamore

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:19 PM

I'd love if they did this to give flavour to each faction. An incentive in the form of a % boost to earnings would be cool. Or as someone mentioned, perhaps your faction will repair and rearm faction mechs but you are on the hook for mechs that they don't typically use.

You can't force selection though since top teams would quickly figure out which faction had the optimal drop deck and everyone would flock over there. People don't like to play inferior robots.

#14 Lupis Volk

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:44 PM

View PostKuritaclan, on 07 April 2016 - 10:46 PM, said:

+LP?

We are talking about factions. Soooo "Faction"/Community Warfare is the thing.

Sure add at as well.

#15 Duke Nedo

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Posted 07 April 2016 - 11:48 PM

Is there a comprehensive list somewhere?

#16 jss78

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 12:11 AM

View PostLupis Volk, on 07 April 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

Should there be? Of course. I'd say a 10% XP and Cbill boost.


I'd really love something like this.

So if you're a loyalist for a given faction, and pilot a mech which is really typical of said faction, you get a bit of extra LP/XP/c-bill (not sure which). Say you're Kuritan and pilot a Panther, a Jenner, a Dragon, or a specific variant such as SHD-2K which is really DCMS through-and-through, you get a slight perk.

Not sure how to deal with "bread-and-butter" variants which are all over the IS, lorewise, say LCT-1V, PXH-1 or SHD-2H. No-one gets the bonus for running those? Or everyone?

Game needs more lore flavour, and this'd be a really easy way to add it.

View PostDuke Nedo, on 07 April 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

Is there a comprehensive list somewhere?


I don't recall seeing one. I guess the raw data is in stuff like faction-specific Random Assignment Tables used in tabletop.

Edited by jss78, 08 April 2016 - 12:10 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2016 - 12:19 AM

Yes, one of the bigger problems this game has.

#18 TELEFORCE

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 01:35 AM

View PostDuke Nedo, on 07 April 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

Is there a comprehensive list somewhere?


I posted it in an above post.

http://www.masterunitlist.info

The random assignment tables from tabletop aren't considered accurate mainly because they take into account different eras of combat between certain factions where they'd likely be salvaging eachother's equipment.

#19 Lupis Volk

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 03:21 AM

View Postjss78, on 08 April 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:


I'd really love something like this.

So if you're a loyalist for a given faction, and pilot a mech which is really typical of said faction, you get a bit of extra LP/XP/c-bill (not sure which). Say you're Kuritan and pilot a Panther, a Jenner, a Dragon, or a specific variant such as SHD-2K which is really DCMS through-and-through, you get a slight perk.

Not sure how to deal with "bread-and-butter" variants which are all over the IS, lorewise, say LCT-1V, PXH-1 or SHD-2H. No-one gets the bonus for running those? Or everyone?

Game needs more lore flavour, and this'd be a really easy way to add it.


Let's say you use a faction special mech. In quick play you get a 10% bonus to Cbills and XP, Now if you take that mech into FW you now also get a 10% boost to LP. Eh for workhorse mech's that'd be more difficult. Since there isn't really enough mechs to be faction special i think.

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 03:47 AM

Going by TELEFORCE's link, starred mechs could get a 10% loyalty boost. Mechs on the faction list without a star could get a 5% boost. Mechs not on the list would not get a boost.

Edited by Crotch RockIt, 08 April 2016 - 03:47 AM.






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