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[Psimon Drake]

I think we should request to have the lore changed retroactively on Sarna.net so that it says for the Timberwolf:

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Vaguely resembling a cross-over between the MAD (Marauder) and CPLT (Catapult) series, the Timber Wolf was tagged with the Inner Sphere reporting name Mad Cplt on first contact. (The targeting computer on Phelan Kell's Wolfhound switched between MAD and CPLT when trying to identify it; Precentor Martial Anastasius Focht later officially designated it "Mad Cplt".
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Otherwise we'd have to change the abbreviation in for the Catapult in MWO to CAT...

Psi

[GonaDie]

Catapult

CAT

MAD CAT

Cuz cats are mad.

[Psimon Drake]

GonaDie, on 13 April 2016 - 07:59 AM, said:

Catapult

CAT

MAD CAT

Cuz cats are mad.

So you're in favour of changing MWO to fit the pre-existing Lore? Yeah, I'd like that too. Though Mad Cplt has it's charms... especially when one tries to pronounce it.

[GonaDie]

Psimon Drake, on 13 April 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

So you're in favour of changing MWO to fit the pre-existing Lore? Yeah, I'd like that too. Though Mad Cplt has it's charms... especially when one tries to pronounce it.

Oh yeah,

''Sir, I've got a clan Mad co;sdkfcoifoi incoming!''
''dafuq?''

[Rushin Roulette]

Well, be happy that the targeting computer didnt know of Hero mechs then:
"Sir. Ive got a BOUNTY HUNTER II JESTER" incomming!"
"saywhaaaaa?!?"

[Psimon Drake]

Rushin Roulette, on 14 April 2016 - 03:06 AM, said:

Well, be happy that the targeting computer didnt know of Hero mechs then:
"Sir. Ive got a BOUNTY HUNTER II JESTER" incomming!"
"saywhaaaaa?!?"

Thank gods indeed!

[Nightshade24]

Um.. you are not exactly getting where "CAT" came from...

It goes like this (specific variants are for eg)

MAD-3R MARAUDER
CPLT-C1 CATAPULT

for eg... that's how it's formatted in this case for the pilot interface (which varies between factions, companies, and sometimes a minor degree lances)....
How the UI was flickering would be along the lines of...

MAD-3R MARAUDER
CPLT-C1 CATAPULT

Get it?
The Catapults designation was not CAT nor was it an error on Sarna to state CAT instead of CPLT because CAT was cut off from the name catapult.

Rushin Roulette, on 14 April 2016 - 03:06 AM, said:

Well, be happy that the targeting computer didnt know of Hero mechs then:
"Sir. Ive got a BOUNTY HUNTER II JESTER" incomming!"
"saywhaaaaa?!?"

Most hero mechs in MW:O and lore are typically named after the pilot (which Bounty hunter was the persona here for an unknown individual who kept in secrecy, kinda like the Robbin hood or the Greyfox of BT in terms of hidden identity)

So They would still say it's a Marauder, and if it's useful they will specify the pilot is Bountyhunter. Because in this case Bountyhunter is there knocking on your door ready to take you down for a bounty most likely.
Or Natasha Kerensky in a trial against you...
or Prince Peter Stiener-Davion there to make you rue the day you existed and to take back the throne from the (tyrant) Archon.
Because these guys are more important then the nameless grunts you otherwise see due to the skill, edited mech, etc.

Also I do think that unknown variants are simply emitted from the lines of designation instead of the computer spazzing.

ie: Bounty hunter would simply be a "MAD MARAUDER" instead of say a "MAD-BH2 MARAUDER" unless the data is already put in for it which may be close friends or enemies in deep hatred.

[Psimon Drake]

Nightshade24, on 16 April 2016 - 06:58 AM, said:

Um.. you are not exactly getting where "CAT" came from...

It goes like this (specific variants are for eg)

MAD-3R MARAUDER
CPLT-C1 CATAPULT

for eg... that's how it's formatted in this case for the pilot interface (which varies between factions, companies, and sometimes a minor degree lances)....
How the UI was flickering would be along the lines of...

MAD-3R MARAUDER
CPLT-C1 CATAPULT

Get it?
The Catapults designation was not CAT nor was it an error on Sarna to state CAT instead of CPLT because CAT was cut off from the name catapult.

Most hero mechs in MW:O and lore are typically named after the pilot (which Bounty hunter was the persona here for an unknown individual who kept in secrecy, kinda like the Robbin hood or the Greyfox of BT in terms of hidden identity)

So They would still say it's a Marauder, and if it's useful they will specify the pilot is Bountyhunter. Because in this case Bountyhunter is there knocking on your door ready to take you down for a bounty most likely.
Or Natasha Kerensky in a trial against you...
or Prince Peter Stiener-Davion there to make you rue the day you existed and to take back the throne from the (tyrant) Archon.
Because these guys are more important then the nameless grunts you otherwise see due to the skill, edited mech, etc.

Also I do think that unknown variants are simply emitted from the lines of designation instead of the computer spazzing.

ie: Bounty hunter would simply be a "MAD MARAUDER" instead of say a "MAD-BH2 MARAUDER" unless the data is already put in for it which may be close friends or enemies in deep hatred.

Thanks for the clarification @Nightshade24. I went to sarna.net and sure enough... Catapult is CPLT. D'oh! I certainly hope that will teach me not to type before I research fully. Anyway, I still like the Mad Cplt. (Though I now know it to be bogus)

Psi

Edited by Psimon Drake, 18 April 2016 - 04:18 AM.

[Nightshade24]

Psimon Drake, on 18 April 2016 - 04:17 AM, said:

Thanks for the clarification @Nightshade24. I went to sarna.net and sure enough... Catapult is CPLT. D'oh! I certainly hope that will teach me not to type before I research fully. Anyway, I still like the Mad Cplt. (Though I now know it to be bogus)

Psi

No problem. But on the topic of the designation and 'inaccuracies' there is the fact that not a single clan mech has the designations in game because that inner sphere style designation system doesn't go for clan mechs.

They never said "TBR-Prime" for the Timberwolf prime... they said...
(Full) Timberwolf alternate configeration Prime
(shot) Timberwolf Alt. Config. Prime
(compressed) Timberwolf Prime

They never said Timberwolf TBR-Prime.
The clanners for their omnimechs follow a different scheme. They are not 'variants', they are alt.configs. thus for omnimechs you should say alt.configs. and not variants. (so there is no 'variant' of a timberwolf, only an alt.config... which makes sense as variant implies variation... when you can make the same timberwolf load out on your prime, alpha, beta, charlie, etc... you notice the fact that their isn't a lot of 'variation' in omnimechs becuase of the fact they are omnimechs. Alternate configerations works as they are alternate configerations of the timberwolf base. However the is also had omnimechs

They still had the shorter hand terms.. for eg Avatar AV1-O (they never said 'prime' but alpha, bravo, charlie, etc were used for later alt.configs).
for eg... AV1-OB, AV1-OC. etc...

The clans just never liked those abbreviations. in their battlemechs they just say for eg with the kodiak...
"Kodiak 1... Kodiak 2... Kodiak 3...", which may be confusing as the Kodiak 2 and Kodiak II are different.
Kodiak 2 is a variant of the Kodiak while the Kodiak II is a new mech all together... with a Kodiak II 2....

1 variant was an IS variant (a 'hero' so to say) that was called KDK-V1 however, this may imply that the IS used these to designate the enemy clan mechs to begin with.. ie after calling the timberwolf a Mad Cat... they may have called it for eg a
"MDC-1, MDC-2, MDC-3," etc... or A, B, C...Maybe have a letter before the number (mybe after 'clan' ?) ie MDC-C1, MDC-C2, etc.
Just an idea. However either way the clans themselves using the non IS designation or known name for the shorter "TBR" would be false and it isn't canon.

MW: O just does it to make it consistent... having "Timberwolf Alt. Config. B" on your screen is much longer then "TBR-B"